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Ted Promo
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Originally posted by DJRYAN™

2) that time travel is possible. IF we were to build a train around the world that could travel at 99.9% the speed of light. If we were to travel on that train for a year, 10 years would've past for everyone else (or something like that).


...which means that it isn't possible.
ziptnf
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Originally posted by DJRYAN™
2) that time travel is possible. IF we were to build a train around the world that could travel at 99.9% the speed of light. If we were to travel on that train for a year, 10 years would've past for everyone else (or something like that).

Wow. You've never heard of relativity, have you?
Ted Promo
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Originally posted by ziptnf
Wow. You've never heard of relativity, have you?


True plur never got past newton.
DJRYAN™
Yes, I've heard of relativity however, that's beginning to be disproven or its laws are going to be modified. There's a project in Europe right now, (Opera) that has data suggesting that they're shooting neutrinos past the speed of light. What that data shows is that the neutrinos were to arrive at the speed of light (x) however, they arrived at (x)-.66 miliseconds, a bit faster than the speed of light.

Its on National Geographic if you care to look. Or google Opera, Neutrinos and Speed of Light.
stren
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Originally posted by aquila
how does he poop?


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i miss Carl Sagan
DJRYAN™
quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
...which means that it isn't possible.


Actually, time tavel occurs daily. The 32 satellites in geosynchronous orbit around our Earth travel so fast that they gain about a half second every day. The atomic clocks within the satellites have to be updated to compensate.

There was also a Russian Astronaut who was in Space for a year, maybe two, and experienced time travel.

What's even more fascinating, is that if this experiment in Geneva holds up, and neutrinos speed faster than light, then time travel to the past becomes possible.

However, neutrinos speeding faster than the speed of light, if proven true, may have an explanation which is still governed by the theory of relativity.

the jury is still out on this.
rdevito
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Originally posted by DJRYAN™
Yes, I've heard of relativity however, that's beginning to be disproven or its laws are going to be modified. There's a project in Europe right now, (Opera) that has data suggesting that they're shooting neutrinos past the speed of light. What that data shows is that the neutrinos were to arrive at the speed of light (x) however, they arrived at (x)-.66 miliseconds, a bit faster than the speed of light.

Its on National Geographic if you care to look. Or google Opera, Neutrinos and Speed of Light.


Check again, they were wrong.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/17/...t-now-forget-e/
DJRYAN™
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Originally posted by rdevito
Check again, they were wrong.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/17/...t-now-forget-e/


they aren't affilliated with the experiment. They're drawing conclusions from afar. That article which you just posted, is providing a "plausible" explanation to the results in order to negate the actual findings.

This article is about an article from a 3rd party.

last publication about the experiment from CERN:
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/Pres...1/PR19.11E.html

Independent confirmatin of their results is underway.
denys envy
quote:
Originally posted by DJRYAN™
Actually, time tavel occurs daily. The 32 satellites in geosynchronous orbit around our Earth travel so fast that they gain about a half second every day. The atomic clocks within the satellites have to be updated to compensate.

There was also a Russian Astronaut who was in Space for a year, maybe two, and experienced time travel.

What's even more fascinating, is that if this experiment in Geneva holds up, and neutrinos speed faster than light, then time travel to the past becomes possible.

However, neutrinos speeding faster than the speed of light, if proven true, may have an explanation which is still governed by the theory of relativity.

the jury is still out on this.


gaining time on things relative around you does not equal going back in time. you might be slowing time down relative to things around you, but that doesn't mean you're going back in time. two different concepts.

Acton
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Originally posted by rdevito
Check again, they were wrong.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/17/...t-now-forget-e/


I watched the conference/presentation at CERN shortly after they revealed the phenomenon to the public, they basically went over the measurement process and I'm reasonably sure the relativistic effects of the satellites were taken into account.

If they didn't mention it, then my memory is fading and about 100 physicists made a ridiculous schoolboy error.
Redd
they're going to redo the experiment to test it more
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