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| Cool1g |
| PS - at Nocturnal when i had to stop by the official hotel for a moment, i couldn't hear anything and its only like 2 miles or less southeast of the veneue... |
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| Jim Carson |
So in a nutshell, the city councilman texted Insomniac on numerous occasions to change the direction of the speakers. Why wasn't the city councilman cited for causing this disruption? Instead of affecting one town, he caused 4 towns to be affected? What an idiot. |
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| Cool1g |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jim Carson
So in a nutshell, the city councilman texted Insomniac on numerous occasions to change the direction of the speakers. Why wasn't the city councilman cited for causing this disruption? Instead of affecting one town, he caused 4 towns to be affected? What an idiot. |
the whole thing about moving speakers makes no sense... AFAIK they are fixed in place and it was would a huge headache to move them - anyone disagree about that? |
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| rowdy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cool1g
the whole thing about moving speakers makes no sense... AFAIK they are fixed in place and it was would a huge headache to move them - anyone disagree about that? |
Yea... how would you be moving stacks of funktion 1 in the middle of a show @__@ |
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| djjoshuaallen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cool1g
the whole thing about moving speakers makes no sense... AFAIK they are fixed in place and it was would a huge headache to move them - anyone disagree about that? |
especially in the middle of the event, which is when I assume they would have asked for such a move to occur. I would think they would have this down by now since they do an event there every few months. |
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| ShweetuH |
How does changing the position of the speakers that are inside of buildings affect the noise that neighboring cities/houses hear?
I believe they are talking about the little cart that plays horrible music all night. |
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| Jim Carson |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShweetuH
How does changing the position of the speakers that are inside of buildings affect the noise that neighboring cities/houses hear?
I believe they are talking about the little cart that plays horrible music all night. |
You'd have to take a math course or audio engineering to understand this phenomenon. ;)
You're probably right. They may have moved that bus or art car.
If it were one of the smaller stages, I bet they could have moved speakers easily a few degrees.
Either way, at least the promoter tried to accommodate as much as possible.
They must have been pumping the subs pretty hard for windows and cars alarms to be going off a couple miles away. Raising the dead has consequences. |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jim Carson
You'd have to take a math course or audio engineering to understand this phenomenon. ;)
You're probably right. They may have moved that bus or art car.
If it were one of the smaller stages, I bet they could have moved speakers easily a few degrees.
Either way, at least the promoter tried to accommodate as much as possible.
They must have been pumping the subs pretty hard for windows and cars alarms to be going off a couple miles away. Raising the dead has consequences. |
the wavelength of a 40hz wave is 8 meters (200 wavelengths per mile).
the loss at 1 mile will be 61.4 dB and at 2 miles will be 67.5 dB. These are approximate, assuming no ground or object reflestions
I dont know what the threshold @ 40 hz is for a car alarm, I would assume for a correctly installed alarm it would be 80-90 dB, and way lower for an incorrectly installed alarm, especially at low frequencies.
But there you go, you lose ~62 dB at 1 mile or about 0.00006%. Obviously the directions of the speaker will make this number decrease significantly, as I assumed isotropic radiator.
Probably something in the range of 40-45 dB of losses (depending on the overall directivity of the speakers and where you are situated relative to the beam angle), so its not that unbelievable if the speakers are at 120-130dB |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
the wavelength of a 40hz wave is 8 meters (200 wavelengths per mile).
the loss at 1 mile will be 61.4 dB and at 2 miles will be 67.5 dB. These are approximate, assuming no ground or object reflestions
I dont know what the threshold @ 40 hz is for a car alarm, I would assume for a correctly installed alarm it would be 80-90 dB, and way lower for an incorrectly installed alarm, especially at low frequencies.
But there you go, you lose ~62 dB at 1 mile or about 0.00006%. Obviously the directions of the speaker will make this number decrease significantly, as I assumed isotropic radiator.
Probably something in the range of 40-45 dB of losses (depending on the overall directivity of the speakers and where you are situated relative to the beam angle), so its not that unbelievable if the speakers are at 120-130dB |
you forgot to take in to account of the angle of the dangle multiplied by the walls of my balls. |
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| djjoshuaallen |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
you forgot to take in to account of the angle of the dangle multiplied by the walls of my balls. |
Give me the measurements and Ill work out an equation for you. That way you will know how close you can park next time, without losing a window or battery power. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
Give me the measurements and Ill work out an equation for you. That way you will know how close you can park next time, without losing a window or battery power. |
well... about 3.23 inches (i guess its the cold weather) |
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| DaveT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cool1g
PS - at Nocturnal when i had to stop by the official hotel for a moment, i couldn't hear anything and its only like 2 miles or less southeast of the veneue... |
If you are talking about the Hilton, I had to stop by there and I could clearly hear what was playing from the event, mainly through the bass. It was very audible. You wouldn't think it was that far away.
Sometimes just air makes a difference. When I lived in the Sunset (west side) in SF and on 28th Ave (out of 46 before you hit the beach), on some nights you could hear the waves crashing from the ocean. It was because the sound would bounce off a wall on the roof out back. It didn't happen often, but when it did it was clear as day that it was the sounds of the ocean and waves crashing. Or should I say night? Since it only ever happened at night but that could be due to just no cars on the streets. |
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