the producer starts off in a nice tribal triplet time format, and if you listen enough into it (about 2.5 minutes), you will notice that he has a slow transition into duplet time with straight quarter notes.
How is this done? Personally I was thinking that he is automating the swing (From triplet w/ no swing, to duplet w/ max swing and slowly automated into no swing at all at the end of the phrase), but I have not had the opportunity to try it out. Have any of you guys tried something like this before, or at least have a clue on emulating it?
And btw, this is a completely underrated album if you guys haven't listened to it before. Psytrance at its absolute best.
Cheers!
Looney4Clooney
so like man what you do is like go from the notes that are playing 8th note triplets in your daw and then like you go to 16 th notes in your daw. And then you like side chain your nexus with your sylenth.
is it really that difficult ? a swear a 10 year old could figure this out. If this is hard for you, stop involving your self with music other than buying others. just stop.
i mean you know what a ing triplet is. You named the term. Google. And a duplet , which could also google is not what you think it is. Then take about 5 minutes, and mess with timing settings in your daw. So about 10 minutes you would have to invest. Seriously. What the is wrong with you. You have a fancy ing avatar but can't spend 10 minutes to figure something out that is so eas, you don't have to be a musician. You need the ability to count to 3 and 4. Can you count to 4 ? I'm also guessing you can count to 3.
DJ Roco
Dude you obviously have no idea what I am talking about. Next time, before you make condescending douchebag statements, make sure you understand the topic at hand.
If there is anyone reading with any sort of musical backround and that isn't completely infantile, I would love to hear your suggestions about the effect I am referring to.
Kysora
l4c, those are the kinds of posts that people bitch to you about whenever a fight breaks out and it becomes you vs us.
usually I defend you but back the off, this is a help forum and it's not up to you to decide what's easy and what's not, especially considering how much you know compared to the rest of us. don't make people feel bad for trying to learn and utilizing a resource that's meant for that exact purpose.
Looney4Clooney
you know what
there is a threshold, this passed it. Like that other post. Let me know you have a learning disabiliy or that you are just american and stupid. Please. I would love to have that context so i didn't have to shake my head and wonder what the is wrong with the world. It isn't hard. If you can install a DAW, you have the brain capacity to figure this out. it is lazyness. And as much as I would love to be nice, this just pushes my you button.
And I will make people feel bad for asking stupid questions, Sorry. It is a character flaw and I wish i didn't have to react but I do.
Can you count to 4. If you can, this is something you can figure out on your own. If you can't , log out, google how to count. Leaern to count to 4. Figure it out.
I answer stupid questions all the time but they are not questions one would expect to know. But the fact that this knows what a triplet or at least the term is and the fact that he has internet. No excuse. him.
sorry for the language. kisses
EddieZilker
quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
so like man what you do is like go from the notes that are playing 8th note triplets in your daw and then like you go to 16 th notes in your daw. And then you like side chain your nexus with your sylenth.
is it really that difficult ? a swear a 10 year old could figure this out. If this is hard for you, stop involving your self with music other than buying others. just stop.
i mean you know what a ing triplet is. You named the term. Google. And a duplet , which could also google is not what you think it is. Then take about 5 minutes, and mess with timing settings in your daw. So about 10 minutes you would have to invest. Seriously. What the is wrong with you. You have a fancy ing avatar but can't spend 10 minutes to figure something out that is so eas, you don't have to be a musician. You need the ability to count to 3 and 4. Can you count to 4 ? I'm also guessing you can count to 3.
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DJ Roco
The technical explanation of the musical complexities of a clean time transition from triplet meter to duplet meter madates a significantly better answer than 'count to 4 retard lol'.
I don't understand why a reasonable question deserves the response you gave.
Based on this reaction, I can judge two things, that
a) you have no idea what I am referring to, and
b) even if you knew, you are simply not inept enough to tell me how to do it.
so for both of our sakes, please vacate this particular thread and let the musicians have big boy talk. Have fun with fruity loops, dick.
Looney4Clooney
A: There is no triplet or duplet meter in the track. Google why.
B: It really is that simple. Can you count to 4 ? Can you count to 3. Hmmm, this group of notes seems to be 3 notes per kick instead of 4. You don't need to know the terminology. Now open your ing manual, and search. Hmmm at one point , there is 3, then all of a sudden there is 4. But the kick is still the same speed. hmmm must have something to do wiht the timing of da notes. Maybe there is a section da manual that talks about this. IN fact i bet there is a button you can press that will change the da grid your DAW uses to control the note distribution.
this is you. At least what i hear when you write.
And if one was to decide how many times a group of black gangbangers in san quentin were to tickle your little based on my knowledge of music given a linear relation, they would of drilled not just a whole thru your ass but past your throat in effect ing a hole to china.
EddieZilker
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Roco
The technical explanation of the musical complexities of a clean time transition from triplet meter to duplet meter madates a significantly better answer than 'count to 4 retard lol'.
I don't understand why a reasonable question deserves the response you gave.
Based on this reaction, I can judge two things, that
a) you have no idea what I am referring to, and
b) even if you knew, you are simply not inept enough to tell me how to do it.
so for both of our sakes, please vacate this particular thread and let the musicians have big boy talk. Have fun with fruity loops, dick.
1. You clearly don't know who you're talking to.
2. You just alienated your only ally in this thread.
3. The song starts with a 6/4 time signature before transitioning to 4/4 beginning at 2:30, where there is an increase in tempo to account for the offset beats while maintaining the functionality of the main hook. The context of your question is flawed since triplets were never actually used, in the first place, and time-format isn't even a musical term. The fact is that you don't present with an understanding of music enough to appreciate the absolute ing irony you're conjuring with your replies.
Looney4Clooney
the track does not deviate from 4/4
one could argue 12/8 but the nature of meter must account for what academics call hyper meter which is a more macro look at how rhythms are repeated. Because the hypermeter is the traditional 8 bars , and the quarter note is clearly dominating the pulse, 4/4 would be the most obvious meter. The fact that you have a triplet pattern does not change the meter. Meter does not account for every single subdivision.
and that is why you only need to count to 4 to get this. It really is this simple. I am not being a dick. I am being a dick because you are just being lazy. So in fact , you are the dick. And by you i'm not talking to Eddie. Van Halen is cool in my books. I'm talking to dj go read a ing book asshat quit making me write vulgarities what ever the the rest of your dj alias is.
EddieZilker
quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
the track does not deviate from 4/4
Why am I counting six beats in that beginning loop?
I stand corrected - just want to know why?
EDIT: NVM - You answered in the above post.
Looney4Clooney
the meter is conflated at the beginning because you don't have that kick. But listen to when the kick is there, same pattern. If one was to notate this, you wouldn't change meters. Well not in this instance.
