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Penn state, Paterno (pg. 3)
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| LAdazeNYnights |
idk how it's so difficult for you to grasp this. When somebody comes to you with an accusation against somebody that's so serious and you are in a position of power, a position from which you can resolve the issue, you take the charge and do it. how could you go on working with the guy?? he wasn't just 'a football coach'
i can't tell if you're trolling or are just daft
p.s. football is stupid, college sports are lame, etc etc etc /rant |
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| OrangestO |
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| srussell0018 |
He didn't continue working with the guy, because the guy had retired 3 years prior. Let me make this clear for you, since you can't seem to understand the concept.
ad·min·is·tra·tor [ad-min-uh-strey-ter]
noun
1.
a person who manages or has a talent for managing.
coach [kohch]
noun
1.
a person who trains an athlete or a team of athletes: a football coach.
If there are allegations of foul play on a college campus, who do you think should be the person/people handling it? The administration, or the football coach?
If somebody told me they saw someone fondling a child in the bathroom at work, I would report it to my boss, I wouldn't call the police. It's not my job/responsibility/duty/etc. to investigate any further or take any actions other than reporting it to the people whose job it is to investigate allegations like this. At that point, all it was was an accusation. No proof, just hearsay, and would mean absolutely nothing in court unless it was substantiated by the eye witness. If anyone had a duty or obligation to go to the police, it was the witness. This has been explained thoroughly up to this point, so I don't understand how you still can't grasp the concept of an institutional hierarchy. |
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| ziptnf |
1. McQueary comes to JoePa and tells him about what he saw
2. JoePa tells him to go to the police and then he informs his supervisor like he's supposed to do
3. JoePa's supervisor says an investigation is being launched but doesn't actually do anything
4. McQueary never actually goes to the police
5. Sandusky's access privileges are restricted thus indicating a resolution
I think the most ed up part of this situation is that they fired Paterno for telling McQueary to to take it to the police and he's the one that gets to stay on the coaching staff. I mean, I know Paterno probably should have followed up on this a little more, but again, he's a football coach. He was morally in the wrong for sweeping it under the rug when a formal investigation never happened and Sandusky was never fired. EVERYBODY who was involved in this situation ed up severely. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Why does everyone keep forgetting that Sandusky wasn't even an employee at the time? How are they going to fire him when he retired 3 years before? |
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| ziptnf |
| I meant "throw him into the fire", specifically Mount Doom. :p |
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| MindShifter |
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
5. Sandusky's access privileges are restricted thus indicating a resolution |
this step never actually happened, the guy had access to campus and used it even after 2002 incident up to and including just last week. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MindShifter
this step never actually happened, the guy had access to campus and used it even after 2002 incident up to and including just last week. |
Grand jury testimony states that in a closed meeting between the AD, and Schultz, that his keys to the facilities were taken and he was forbidden to bring any children onto campus. Obviously not enough was done, but whose fault is that?
What really bothers me, is if McQueary saw something so horrific, why did he continue coaching there for 9 more years? Why did he not physically do anything to stop it at the time? It's not like he was some little pansy. He was a former player, and about half Sandusky's age. 9 years of living with that and he never once went to the police? I'm sure he even saw Sandusky at least a few times in that span, yet still did nothing. |
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| srussell0018 |
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| Arbiter |
Paterno was substantially less culpable than that of many other people involved, but still obviously should have done more to follow up after it was obvious that other people weren't doing what they should have been. I'm quite confident that the vast majority of people calling for his head would have been just as negligent in his position, so I have a hard time taking them seriously. It's easy to hand down judgments from the proverbial sidelines, not quite so easy to be a whistleblower.
What I find more troubling is this:
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Why did [McQueary] not physically do anything to stop it at the time? It's not like he was some little pansy. He was a former player, and about half Sandusky's age. |
Seriously. Here's a photograph of McQueary with Paterno on the sidelines:
He's a big boy. Yet, when he walked in on someone anally raping a ten-year-old boy, his reaction is to... just walk away? What the , man. What the . |
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| Trancealot |
| Joe P. was the cop but not the judge and jury and still got screwed. Dag |
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