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| Looney4Clooney |
If Jesus came down , or I suppose another god from some fictitious religion and said Robbie, yay my child , your basslines will never roll the way god praise him wishes. Your sawtooths leviticus 18 are an abomination and thou shalt suffer a mormon after life.
How many of you produce under the auspices that it will eventually yield something productive and successful.
My girlfriend is having a crisis in her singing career ie no work and I tell her that what fuelled her need to sing was not so much to express art but more so to be good at something and feel unique. So wether she decided to get a normal life, she would still be unhappy. I would say most musicians artists .... have this psychosis which makes one do something that yields more often than not more stress than not doing it but because of these subconscious intrinsic button pushers.
I always had a delusion that music would be my thing. Thought I would be a rockstar by 18, had enough personal crises regarding why i wasn't succeeding and to be honestly the only thing that really made me not stop was pure stubbornness. I knew I was awesome and it was just a matter of time. now granted I was awesome so it worked out eventually but what if you were not awesome. How long would you wait ? Took me till the age of 30 to make any money what so ever. But i wonder if I would of waited till 40. For some reason I think i would of. I mean all i needed was food, medicine and a hot piece. Of course getting a hot piece gets harder the older you get when you don't have the duckets.
Anyways in summation , I have 2 UAD-2 quads for sale. Take it to the next level! THe UAD 2 according to their website is like a hot button. So crank that to 10. i mean not on every channel because you will only be able to use some plugins a few times before your dsp powered plugin monitor says ooops no more dsp :(
Anyways, kinda 2 threads wrapped in one, I do have UAD 2 for sale. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
How many of you produce under the auspices that it will eventually yield something productive and successful.
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Not me. I had my 15 minutes of fame and now it's nice to have a reliable career that pays me well enough to buy all the toys I want for a hobby that I don't have enough time to enjoy. |
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| meriter |
It seems most of the people who go into it just to have fun are the ones that fall into some kind of success. And then people who are hell-bent on 'making it' are the ones who put too much pressure on themselves and their art and end up just spinning their wheels.
And then there are people who are grossly talented that have had to practically lose their minds in order to make any kind of impact. Maybe not so much in EDM but in traditional music, you're never gonna make it anywhere if you approach things rationally. Like it's never a wise idea to try making a life out of music regardless of how talented you are or what you think you have to offer. Delusion is a part of the business and over-blown confidence will get you farther than actual talent. I mean these people on the top of their game are right-brained ego-maniacal lunatics they don't sit there and think about how realistic it is. You can have savant level skill and still go nowhere or you can be a talentless hack and make millions.
As far as your little psychological analysis of your girlfriend I don't think you accomplished anything positive by telling her that, but that's your business. Basically you're claiming there's a difference between having something to say and wanting to have something to say? |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
If Jesus came down , or I suppose another god from some fictitious religion and said Robbie, yay my child , your basslines will never roll the way god praise him wishes. Your sawtooths leviticus 18 are an abomination and thou shalt suffer a mormon after life. |
Lmao
| quote: | | How many of you produce under the auspices that it will eventually yield something productive and successful. |
Not me. I have always figured my talent is pretty minimal, and my patience for self-promotion and networking is basically zero, so I would not be doing this for a living.
I do it because I love music, I love synthesizers and sound manipulation, and creating something I can enjoy feels awesome.
| quote: | | My girlfriend is having a crisis in her singing career ie no work and I tell her that what fuelled her need to sing was not so much to express art but more so to be good at something and feel unique. So wether she decided to get a normal life, she would still be unhappy. I would say most musicians artists .... have this psychosis which makes one do something that yields more often than not more stress than not doing it but because of these subconscious intrinsic button pushers. |
That's an interesting thought, like some people have an intrinsic "drive to master something" that could be directed in many places but just happened to settle on music. For me in particular, the direction of my "mastery drive" has not always been toward music, and has never been toward music exclusively. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by meriter
As far as your little psychological analysis of your girlfriend I don't think you accomplished anything positive by telling her that, but that's your business. Basically you're claiming there's a difference between having something to say and wanting to have something to say? |
i didn't tell her that. Basically some people are loaded with baggage from their upbringing that to succeed is to be great at something. Some people don't stop to think, am i good because I enjoy doing this or I enjoy doing this because i'm good. |
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| DJ RANN |
I have to agree with the sentiments of Dave and Calv.
I don't care if music doesn't make me rich or successful (at it).
I've been lucky enough to to get to the very top of the field, and worked with some of the greatest minds and artists in the industry -
I did it, enjoyed it, then realised I just didn't want it enough to keep sacrificing everything for it (which is what is needed to stay there).
I'd do it all again in a heartbeat and weirdly it got me where I am now (completely unrelated field) which I do very well at and I truly enjoy life, moreso than doing the thing I spent the previous 10 years just trying to get to.
What your GF has is called the 1/3rd life crisis - It's when you realise that you're 30 something and will never be a rockstar/win a gold medal at the olympics/score the winning overhead bicycle goal at the world cup/win an oscar/be on the cover of sports illustrated or rolling stone, and have to come to terms with those lofty dreams finally fading.
It's natural - we all question our existence and career choices and artists are the ing plague when it comes to these things.
It doesn't bother me - my uncle did not make a penny until he was 40, then he became a multimillionaire in the next 5 years, only to loose it all recently because his business partner (CFO) lost the plot and took out an unpayable loan to hide those losses.
You can't predict life so there's no point worrying about it either way - just do something you enjoy and hopefully you can make a living from it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
makes sense.
I told her she should come to my jazzersise class. |
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| MSZ |
| im the next joel zimmerman, except more jewish. |
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| Raphie |
I enjoy what i do while there is no financial pressure.
do i crave for succes or recognition? none of that either.
Guess i'm just happy with a proper ying/yang balance sort of thingy.... |
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| meriter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Basically some people are loaded with baggage from their upbringing that to succeed is to be great at something. |
That's just part of being human, not really a bad thing, and not something that only affects certain individuals. That basic cycle affects everyone to varying degrees. It's a huge part of where the drive to succeed comes from. What you're saying is absolutely true but there's no reason to look down on people for it or look at it as a bad thing. It becomes unhealthy if you don't know how to manage yourself, like not accepting your own limitations. I've known people who refuse to put anything out because it never meets their massively overblown expectations of themselves. Like excuse after excuse "oh I don't have the right gear" or "once I get blah blah.. THEN I can blah blah" It's important to have supportive people around to remind you not to take life so seriously and just get over yourself and have fun. |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
I enjoy what i do while there is no financial pressure.
do i crave for succes or recognition? none of that either.
Guess i'm just happy with a proper ying/yang balance sort of thingy.... |
This is the best relationship/balance to have/keep ---> it is all about pleasure creating music, self satisfaction, connecting with different people or just being in this environment surrounded by music, makes me happier guy or whatever........ as long as I'm listening, creating, talking about music, I'm perfectly fine!!!!
Darek |
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