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Controversy over the alleged gay porn past of a MA-based Highschool Teacher. (pg. 5)
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| Silky Johnson |
| Aren't you guys glad you aren't stupid. Srussell don't answer. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
What if the teacher is black? I mean PUBLICLY BLACK. Should parents reserve some sort of special right to move their children out of that teacher's class, thus creating more of a mess of the bureaucratic, over-bloated educational administration process, merely because some parents have their prejudices? Or should school administration be trusted to do their ing jobs and keep teachers on staff - and doing their jobs - so that children can get the most unobstructed education possible?
It's really one or the other, because to let the ing PTSA essentially run a school by the opinion of people who are essentially concerned about this issue (which has absolutely nothing to do with education) really undermines the organization necessary to keep children disciplined and supported by public education. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
What if the teacher is black? I mean PUBLICLY BLACK. Should parents reserve some sort of special right to move their children out of that teacher's class, thus creating more of a mess of the bureaucratic, over-bloated educational administration process, merely because some parents have their prejudices? Or should school administration be trusted to do their ing jobs and keep teachers on staff - and doing their jobs - so that children can get the most unobstructed education possible?
It's really one or the other, because to let the ing PTSA essentially run a school by the opinion of people who are essentially concerned about this issue (which has absolutely nothing to do with education) really undermines the organization necessary to keep children disciplined and supported by public education. |
Making it about personal prejudice is a bit different than it being about something that is pretty universally kept away from children.
And to answer your question, yes, parents do have a right to move their children to a different school if they want to. In your case, I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed. You're basically arguing your opinion against the opinion of the parents, but the thing is, you're not those children's parents. It's not your responsibility to try and raise them the best way possible, which certainly includes choosing what schools they go to.
I had many friends whose parents actually moved so that their children would be going to a different school. In that case it was for the quality of education in a different district, but regardless, they had every right to do that. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Making it about personal prejudice is a bit different than it being about something that is pretty universally kept away from children.
And to answer your question, yes, parents do have a right to move their children to a different school if they want to. In your case, I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed. You're basically arguing your opinion against the opinion of the parents, but the thing is, you're not those children's parents. It's not your responsibility to try and raise them the best way possible, which certainly includes choosing what schools they go to.
I had many friends whose parents actually moved so that their children would be going to a different school. In that case it was for the quality of education in a different district, but regardless, they had every right to do that. |
But you weren't arguing about the right to move kids to another school, you clearly said that parents should have the right to know all about teacher's pasts.
If you had a gay teacher you might not use straw men arguments so much. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
But you weren't arguing about the right to move kids to another school, you clearly said that parents should have the right to know all about teacher's pasts.
If you had a gay teacher you might not use straw men arguments so much. |
Not all about their pasts, just things that should not be around children. If your child's teacher was formerly (or currently) a member of the KKK do you think you should know about it? Keep in mind they weren't doing anything illegal. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
something that is pretty universally kept away from children.
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See, this is what happens when stupid people raise children and treat them like they are also stupid. Poor, poor srussell. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Not all about their pasts, just things that should not be around children. If your child's teacher was formerly (or currently) a member of the KKK do you think you should know about it? Keep in mind they weren't doing anything illegal. |
Why shouldn't children know about sex and sexuality? What's so immoral about it? |
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| Silky Johnson |
Oh no WAIT! I get it now!
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| Halcyon+On+On |
Well of course parents have a right to choose what schools they want their children to go to. Colorado has some of the best public schools in the region, so I am well acquainted with how people will move great lengths just to get their kid into a school they think is best for them. And that's great, parents really should be concerned about their children's well being, that's absolutely not at issue here.
What is at issue are the communities of parents who believe that a teacher's past has anything to do with how well they do their current job. It's not as though he was an open gay porn actor... somebody had to go digging for this information. Some parent was probably watching gay porn and noticed him. :stongue:
It's not as though he is going to relate tales of his gay porn career to his students in English class; and if he does, he is absolutely in the wrong and administration should step in, because that's impertinent to the course he is employed to teach. I just think this issue has far more to do with him being gay than him being in porn. Parents have a right and duty to protect their kids, sure, but the school also has an obligation to protect its teachers who are in the absolutely legal right to do their jobs. I believe that in this case we are going to see some institutionalized bigotry, and enough parents are going to complain to the point where he is fired. And that's not right.
After all, this is Boston, right? He's a kwee-ah. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Not all about their pasts, just things that should not be around children. If your child's teacher was formerly (or currently) a member of the KKK do you think you should know about it? Keep in mind they weren't doing anything illegal. |
How would you find this out? A background check is done, no criminal offenses, no problem. the education system is so ty and ed in your country, that a shortage of teachers is the last thing you guys need. No one wants to teach anymore because of the ty pay as it is....do you suggest having teachers water boarded until they admit that they are hiding from their past?
The reality is I would not know if this teacher was in the kkk unless I asked and they said yes. unless they were teaching racist ideologies, I wouldn't have a reason to give a .
Have you ever done anything that your employers would frown upon if they knew, regardless of how long ago it may have happened? The answer is yes for sure...we all have.
Ps 17sss you forgot to log out srussel. |
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| Redd |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
Ps 17sss you forgot to log out srussel. |
haha I had the same exact thought |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Australian GQ forgot to log out as srussell. |
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