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Judge Jules dropping DJing (as a career) to become lawyer... (pg. 3)
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| mar46017 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fantasyexctasy
Amen to that, my friend graduated a year ago and is working as someone's lawyer aide making only 30k a year. Unless you got a relative in the field, you won't find a job |
Pretty much. My brother just passed the bar. He went to Loyola Law School. I would like him to work for a big firm so he get worked like a slave and learn more, but he says no one is hiring, so for now he is working for me for $15 an hour. (same rate I gave him before he passed the bar)
| quote: | Originally posted by alan
better to be a lawyer than a promoter |
Depends. Being a lawyer def sounds better than being a promoter to your girlfriend's parents, however if done right, one highly successful event can bring in lots of $.
Both have risks as well. As a promoter you can lose your ass on DJ fees, bar guarantees etc. Same goes with a risky case where liability is questionable. You spend your time, filing fees, expert fees and jury fees. If the jury doesn't like you, your case or your client, you get zero from the Plaintiff minus all the $ you spent on the case.
Thankfully going from a promoter to lawyer did help me promoter my name to my promoter database. I get lots of cases (car accidents, litigation and some criminal) just from Facebook and contacts.
A part of me would still love to own a nightclub one day. (will likely never happen though) |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sadface
It depends on how good of a school you come from. I know a girl who graduated from NYU (~ top 5 last I heard) and went into patent law making >200k right away. Now, if you're trying to get a low-mid tier law degree you'll be in a lot more trouble when you graduate... |
If you go to the link I posted they specifically discussing going to T3 schools will do nothing for you.
Too many people grew up thinking lawyers made it big, now they're in the hole. Americaaaaa yeeaa |
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by mar46017
Pretty much. My brother just passed the bar. He went to Loyola Law School. I would like him to work for a big firm so he get worked like a slave and learn more, but he says no one is hiring, so for now he is working for me for $15 an hour. (same rate I gave him before he passed the bar)
Depends. Being a lawyer def sounds better than being a promoter to your girlfriend's parents, however if done right, one highly successful event can bring in lots of $.
Both have risks as well. As a promoter you can lose your ass on DJ fees, bar guarantees etc. Same goes with a risky case where liability is questionable. You spend your time, filing fees, expert fees and jury fees. If the jury doesn't like you, your case or your client, you get zero from the Plaintiff minus all the $ you spent on the case.
Thankfully going from a promoter to lawyer did help me promoter my name to my promoter database. I get lots of cases (car accidents, litigation and some criminal) just from Facebook and contacts.
A part of me would still love to own a nightclub one day. (will likely never happen though) |
sorry, i was making it too simple.
go commercial or DJ mag top 100, and promoting earns a lot! i know a promoter who earns 4K to 5K on a thursday, and he throws 5 events per week.
otherwise, breaking even is the target for those with a more "niche" focus musically. |
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| jdub889 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sadface
It depends on how good of a school you come from. I know a girl who graduated from NYU (~ top 5 last I heard) and went into patent law making >200k right away. Now, if you're trying to get a low-mid tier law degree you'll be in a lot more trouble when you graduate... |
i'm preeettyyy sure that even the top top firms do not pay over $200k to a first year associate, even with a clerkship bonus. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the patent law thing, but... well, that's kinda the point. patent lawyers are always in demand because they have to have a hard science degree as well, so this is not the normal situation for most law school grads. trust me, there are PLENTY of nyu grads still looking for legitimate work. |
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| jdub889 |
| quote: | Originally posted by alan
go commercial or DJ mag top 100, and promoting earns a lot! i know a promoter who earns 4K to 5K on a thursday, and he throws 5 events per week. |
geeezzzzz. where does he promote? or can you say? |
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdub889
geeezzzzz. where does he promote? or can you say? |
Check out Tigerheat at Spot 5750 on Thursdays. They average around 1,500 people at 10 bucks a pop. Always the same DJs and 3 partners. Expect Britney songs, and that stuff. They used to do Avalon on Thursdays. |
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by alan
sorry, i was making it too simple.
go commercial or DJ mag top 100, and promoting earns a lot! i know a promoter who earns 4K to 5K on a thursday, and he throws 5 events per week.
otherwise, breaking even is the target for those with a more "niche" focus musically. |
Well, if you can make a little cash and do it by listening to music you love, that's something special right there. :)
I can see why it would be tough, though. Flying DJs in from Europe/Asia when there are a lot of electro-house DJs that can pull a crowd who live right here in LA. That's why the world needs promoters who love the music they promote. |
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| djjoshuaallen |
| Just do what you love and hope the money follows. And if it doesn't at least you're doing what you love |
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| euphoria |
| quote: | Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
lol....one day we're actually gonna hear: "now presiding: the honorable judge jules" |
Was about to say the same thing, but his name irl is Julius O'Riordan lol :p
Good luck to him :D |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdub889
i'm preeettyyy sure that even the top top firms do not pay over $200k to a first year associate, even with a clerkship bonus. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the patent law thing, but... well, that's kinda the point. patent lawyers are always in demand because they have to have a hard science degree as well, so this is not the normal situation for most law school grads. trust me, there are PLENTY of nyu grads still looking for legitimate work. |
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| Sadface |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdub889
i'm preeettyyy sure that even the top top firms do not pay over $200k to a first year associate, even with a clerkship bonus. the only thing that makes me hesitate is the patent law thing, but... well, that's kinda the point. patent lawyers are always in demand because they have to have a hard science degree as well, so this is not the normal situation for most law school grads. trust me, there are PLENTY of nyu grads still looking for legitimate work. |
I'm not just making it up. It was jaw dropping, but obviously patent law is special and she had the undergrad resume to back it up.
jonmitz that salary line graph is hilarious. |
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| JescoSF |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
If you go to the link I posted they specifically discussing going to T3 schools will do nothing for you.
Too many people grew up thinking lawyers made it big, now they're in the hole. Americaaaaa yeeaa |
This sounds like someone who didn't get accepted to law school..
It all depends on what kind of law you want to practice and what kind of connections that you can make while in law school. This is especially true for the West Coast. I have many friends that went to top law schools and are having trouble with the job market. So, unfortunately Jon, you don't know what you are talking about.
I will be the first one to tell you that it is extremely tough to find a job right now in the legal field. The same is true for many other professions. This has happened to the profession before back in the 80's and it bounced back. The recession in this country and the fact that California is completely broke has everything to do with it.
If you really want to make it [at anything] you have to keep at it and continuing doing what you love. If you are doing something solely for the money you will never be happy. If you are passionate about something and relentless - making the big money is the easy part IMO.
I tell people [jokingly] not to go to law school only because it is a huge commitment and does put you in debt. I have a few friends from law school that realized quickly that law was not for them and they are hating life. You really have to want it and have to be passionate about whatever practice area that you chose.
Cheers to Jules for keeping an Ace in his pocket. |
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