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Did the US really accomplish anything in Iraq? (pg. 2)
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nchs09
quote:
Originally posted by Zharen
America: killing darkies since 1990
lolwut? More like 1776
Zharen
quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
lolwut? More like 1776


Well, I was referring to darkie in strictly a Muslim sense, but yeah, I suppose you're right. I stand corrected.
ChemEnhanced
but weren't the darkies doing a fine job killing each other? I think less darkies died because they teamed up to fight the white man.
Adam420
The U.S. will not invade Iran

It would just never work
EddieZilker
We made it a lot worse.
srussell0018
quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
We made it a lot worse.


Not sure if srs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

Once 100,000+ civilians have been killed, then it might be worse.
EddieZilker
I think that while it may have been helpful to remove Saddam, our military strategy was so flawed that it's created long-term instability which annuls the benefit of the mission, in the first place.
Vector A
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Not sure if srs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

Once 100,000+ civilians have been killed, then it might be worse.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

And that is a fairly cautious estimate (it goes only by published news reports of numbers of civilian deaths). Wiki also has some that are well over 100,000:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
srussell0018
Well then.

:p

I didn't think it'd be anything near that.

But,

quote:
WikiLeaks. Classified Iraq war logs[1][2][3][4]
109,032 deaths including 66,081 civilian deaths.[5][6]
January 2004 to December 2009


That's also over a 5 year period with a war going on. Hussein killed over 100,000 in 3 during "peace" time.
EgosXII
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Well then.

:p

I didn't think it'd be anything near that.

But,



That's also over a 5 year period with a war going on. Hussein killed over 100,000 in 3 during "peace" time.


And its America's job to set things right!

Americaaaaa, yeahhhhhh!!

Halcyon+On+On
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If you examine the record of the so-called the anti-war movement in this country and imagine what would have happened had its counsel been listened to over the last 15 and more years, you would have a world in which the following would be the case:

Saddam Hussein would be the owner and occupier of Kuwait, he would have succeeded in the annexation, not merely the invasion, but the abolition of an Arab and Muslim state that was a member of the Arab League and of the United Nations. And with these resources as we now know because he lost that war, he was attempting to equip himself with the most terrifying arsenal that it was possible for him to lay his hands on. That's one consequence of anti-war politics, that's what would have happened.

In the meanwhile, Slobodan Milošević would have made Bosnia part of a greater Serbia, and Kosovo would have been ethnically cleansed and also annexed. The Taliban would be still in power in Afghanistan if the anti-war movement had been listened to, and al-Qaeda would still be their guests. And Saddam Hussein, with his crime family, would still be privately holding ownership over a terrorized people in a state that's been most aptly described as a concentration camp above ground and a mass grave underneath it.

Now if I had that record politically, I would be extremely modest, I wouldn't be demanding explanations from those of us who said it's about time that we stop this continual capitulation to dictatorship, to racism, to aggression and to totalitarian ideology. That we will not allow to be appeased in Iraq, the failures in Rwanda, and in Bosnia, and in Afghanistan, and elsewhere. And we take pride in having taken that position, and we take pride in our Iraqi and Kurdish friends who are conducting this struggle, on our behalves I should say.

- Christopher Hitchens vs. George Galloway debate, New York City (2005-09-14)
srussell0018
Nice
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