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| Looney4Clooney |
I find it frustrating that when you are listening to a podcast , the dj doesn't imbed the track list so if you like a track, you can buy it. Are djs still that insecure that they have to hide their cards ?
I mean it should be set up, i hear a track, i click on something, it brings me to itunes, and i buy it in less than 1 minute. I mean it is insane how much more revenue producers would make. For one, you are selling to real people. not djs so the market is huge.
I mean i just don't get why the dance seems to be run by idiots.
And imagine if there was a way to track which dj made people buy a track, they can get some sort of revenue as well.
I mean there is so much money that is not being made because people don't make it easy for others to spend. |
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| DjWoody |
It could be because a lot of DJ's don't know how to embed track titles. Remember, many Dj's are not tech savvy and don't know how podcasts actually work. They think that they can just make an MP3 recording, upload it somewhere, and call it a day.
Back when Dance Department first started, that was one of the features I really liked about their podcast. Even though it was a 1 hr mix, it showed you the track titles as the mix went on. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
well record labels should start sending cease and desist letters. Honestly, it is the least you can do as a dj. IF you aren't supporting the artist you are playing, you really should go yourself. It isn't hard. It isn't tech savy. It takes about 5 minutes.
Djs don't do it because they have this insecurity and this ed up sense that they own those tracks and anyone else that has it will diminish the value of their precious track.
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I find it's extremely rare that DJs don't put their tracklists online for podcasts. In fact, an awful lot of DJs whore out their own record labels and productions and still don't embed the tracklistings, so your sweeping generalisation is quite clearly bull. |
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| Inny |
| I did know this was even possible to do. A quick search through google did not result in a description on how this could be accomplished. Perhaps you (or anyone else) can point me in the right direction? |
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| Equinox DJ |
| You clearly have never attempted to get a podcast up and running. There are websites like Mixcloud that link each track to a buy link but this site is limited in it's scope ie. only allows 100mb worth of music per podcast. not great if you... like me... like to put our 3, 4, or 5 hour mixes each month. and no i don't know how to embed something like that in a Soundcloud track list. if i did i'd do it. but you talk about supporting artists???? i buy all the music i put in my podcasts, and publish the music out to hundreds of potential buyers for the artists without asking anything in return and pay out for a soundcloud account out of my own pocket... so don't talk to me about supporting artists |
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| Looney4Clooney |
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Search podcast + chapters.
Not only can you imbed the track being played at the moment but can also ad the actual album art. It is ridiculously easy. Having a tracklist with no actual time values is pointless. Not to mention most people are not listening at home.
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Buying an mp3 is supporting an artist. Having a public podcast is not only illegal but in most cases, especially when you aren't really funnelling people to actually buy the record in no way supportive. Labels would send you a cease and desist if they had the means and money. As a no name dj, which you all are, your mixes really are not helping sales. So no. Not only are you breaking the law, you really aren't helping the artist.
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Guess why so many producers, most likely awful djs actually dj ? Because of low sales. So this is in your interest. Having high sales will probably make it possible for djs , that are great djs able to make grounds without having to be a producer.
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System J, Can the condescending piety for someone that isn't me. You say that actual labels don't imbed and this is sort of how ridiculous the dance scene is. It is run by morons supported by morons ignoring so many potential revenues not just for producers but say a refering fee for djs that have a mix, have the tracks imbeded , and have some system in place so that say dj Face ends up sending 100 people to itunes because of their mixes. they get a certain cut.
E: Paying for hosting ? Ya its called promotion. As a dj, who isn't a producer that has tracks that seperate you from the dross of djs that do what anyone can do, you are going to have to market yourself a little more so if you think 20$ for an account is unreasonable, well me. And believe it or not, having this information imbedded is actually what most people want. They like it. It will make you stand out. It makes you look good, it helps the artists that are stealing your job because nobody is buying their music and if people would ing step back and look at the logistics, i mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the logic.
F: finally, and this one is for system j. Quit being such an aggressive ass. And for the sake of posterity, generalizations are sweeping. That is the nature of a generalization. Rather redundant in many ways similar to when you decide to opine where your ultimate goal is to school someone. I mean redundant for different reasons but ya, you need to stop acting like you invented djing. You are a nobody. And that is fine. In fact i think you are probably alot nicer than you let on. But how you attack a post that deals with a real issue among the that gets posted here, well i have to wonder what your ing deal is.
this bickering is pointless. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Do you have any self-awareness at all? In this thread you've labelled people as "idiots" and "morons" and invited people to "go themselves", and you're telling me to stop being aggressive? You stride around this forum with your dick in your hand, constantly insulting DJs and producers alike, making idiotic generalisations that clearly don't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. It doesn't take much intelligence to work out that in the DJ Booth section, most of the people reading are going to be DJs, so when you make wit slurs against everyone, don't be surprised when people bite back.
I don't frankly give a if you think I'm a "nobody". You wouldn't believe the people I know and the contacts I have if I told you, anyway. I'd love to tell you about the phone conversation I had just this afternoon, but I'm not going to name drop and compromise relations just to prove a point to someone on a forum. There are people on this forum who are personal friends with some of the biggest DJs in the world, and you wouldn't have a clue because they don't parade it around in public. It makes me laugh that you can't stop bragging about being some industry guy in LA. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
when and where have I paraded about being some industry guy in LA ? I don't even live in LA.
And brinkmanship is a game for fools but trust me , that well for one, biggest dj ? lol. I mean in the grand scope of things, not really impressive. But if we were to have a name dropping throw down, well your dick would not be swinging so wide. You are a dj.Not a very successful one. Stop prettying like you have this ing network that you could use but don't because like you have to keep real.
And i did not call anyone in this forum directly those terms. It is merely a reflection on the absurdity of the situation. And ya, i know djs are here. That is kinda the point of the thread. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
And brinkmanship is a game for fools but trust me , that well for one, biggest dj ? lol. |
I've got no idea what this sentence is supposed to mean, but this is not about brinkmanship. I'm not trying to prove I know more people than you or anyone else, but I know enough people, from DJs to label owners to producers to promoters, to know how things work, so it's absolutely irrelevant to me whether you think I'm a "nobody". I know the score, and so if you come out with utter bull you cannot bluff me off an argument by dismissing me as a "nobody".
And as for me being a DJ, I have never handed out a promo CD, I have never asked for a booking. I have turned down bookings from promoters who post on this forum, because I don't think I'm good enough to play live. I'm not particularly interested in DJing as a career, it's something I do entirely for creative satisfaction. Most of the people I know are through my time as a music journalist, people who have got in touch with me or who I've just met. What I've done as a DJ does not change who and what I know, and when you say something like "Djs don't do it because they have this insecurity and this ed up sense that they own those tracks" you just sound like a ing cretin to me.
But yeah - the real reason producers aren't making money is because people don't know the names of their tracks because DJs don't code their podcasts in a certain way. It's got nothing to do with rampant online piracy and a hugely inflated market where it's almost impossible to stand out. You've totally got to the bottom of the music industry's problems in this thread. And all these flagship DJs who whore out their own labels and productions on their podcasts are deliberately counter-acting their own marketing by refusing to embed tracklists, entirely because they're all insecure and want to take credit for the music, even if it means losing out on the money they're trying to make.
Your argument is so ing stupid it defies description. That you have the temerity to call people "morons" in the same post is the hilarious icing on top of a particularly idiotic cake. |
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