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Balsillie and Lazardis resign... (pg. 3)
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| HotSoup |
1. Keep the physical keypad.
2. Stick to ONE phone model - the bold. Scrap the rest.
3. Innovate.
And Blackberry can turn around.
Keep an eye on the decisions made over the next couple months before buying stock. |
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| Dior Homme |
I dont know why Rim who make the screen even larger by extending it downwards in replacement of the answer/end/bb button/back/main button.
Those keys do not need to be physical. The touch screen on the new bold is so small. It's like saying ya, there's a touch screen, but its there cause we can say there's another product with a touch screen. The thing is so tiny its for ants. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. Z
Why does everybody seem to think RIM is "in trouble" ? Their revenues are growing quarter by quarter and the subscriber number is increasing every quarter.
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I guess people are so focused on that one lone number, the stock price. Most people have no clue what that number even means. |
You're right, most people don't understand what a stock price means. Valuation discussions aside, it's essentially reflective of the expectations of investors.
Revenue is somewhat of an irrelevant number for RIM. Market share is a better indicator and theirs has been shrinking. I think the primary concern with RIM now is whether they can ever get people excited about their products again. Playbook? huge fail. Massive inventory writedowns. How can they win back the attention of both business and consumer users? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by HotSoup
2. Stick to ONE phone model - the bold. Scrap the rest.
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This would be a terrible mistake.... the Bold is only a good seller in North America and Western Europe, and even then only to the top end of the market. Most of the world market wants to change out their phones every few months to a year; thus, it's the lower priced BBs that are in most demand. The Curve and Style are key to their Asian and European success; they need those low end curves and the flip style outside of NA. I agree they need fewer models but going just with their top line executive model would be a strategic mistake (incidently, this option was examined by RIMs strategists and the conclusions they reached are what I'm basing my comments on). I would say if they offered the top end Bold (9900 like), a less expensive Bold (touch screen still but all plastic), one slider (touch), two curves (one touch, one not), the Style (flip version of curve), and one full touch, they would likely find the right mix. |
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| HotSoup |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I would say if they offered the top end Bold (9900 like), a less expensive Bold (touch screen still but all plastic), one slider (touch), two curves (one touch, one not), the Style (flip version of curve), and one full touch, they would likely find the right mix. |
Disagree. If blackberry concentrated efforts on a single model, they could a) improve margins b) focus on single product innovation c) have one GOOD product as opposed to 8 mediocre products.
Take a look at the iPhone, people paid more for a GOOD product. Of the 37 million iPhones sold last quarter, how many WANTED to spend that kind of money on a phone? They did so because it's a GOOD product.
Learn from Apple, but keep your keypad and BBM, and make sure you innovate.
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
incidently, this option was examined by RIMs strategists and the conclusions they reached are what I'm basing my comments on |
Apple Strategists > Blackberry Strategists |
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| Skipper |
| Apple's results yesterday were unbelievable. |
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| Mach X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Apple's results yesterday were unbelievable. |
Incredible and impressive... but that's what it is possible by charging ridiculously marked up prices and keeping production costs at a bare minimum by running pseudo Chinese slave camps... |
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| GGM |
| Talks being thrown around of Samsung buying RIM. Not that I'd be ultra keen on one of the last major true Canadian corps going to foreign ownership, but that would be a great match. Samsung's biggest problem right now is that Google and Motorola have teamed up and they are likely to slowly be pushed away from being Android's top seller. Their biggest strength is by far their hardware. RIM is the opposite with crap hardware and (soon to be) great OS with patents galore to boot. Win/win imo. |
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| Mach X |
| quote: | Originally posted by GGM
Talks being thrown around of Samsung buying RIM. Not that I'd be ultra RIM is the opposite with crap hardware and (soon to be) great OS with patents galore to boot. Win/win imo. |
Crap hardware? The 9900 and the PlayBook (albeit their top of the line) are solid and well built devices. Say what you want to say about the PlayBook. but reviews from industry and tech everywhere have praised the hardware of the PlayBook as one of the best, if not the best of all tablets on the market out there.
And the 9900, I don't think I've ever held a better built and designed phone in my hand before, and that's not just because I am a BlackBerry guy. Many people, iPhone owners, android owners, all have said positive things about how remarkable the 9900.
Now, the lower end $0 on a 2yr curves, those are pretty nasty, but so is any entry level handset.
But 100% agree with not wanting to see another Canadian company go... what would be great would be maybe a merger where RIM still handles its other intrests, its infrastructure, but have Samsung be the on the smartphone & tablet end of things.
Then in the background, just a think tank and mind share of both companies expertise and knowledge. |
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| Dior Homme |
As am I trying to hold on to my 9700 since i got it in Jan of 2010, it is not only the longest I have ever had a phone, I am holding out as much as I can until my 3 years is up or if I can find another better option. I don't need to upgrade right now so buying a new phone isn't gonna kill me.
However, one of the reason why I have not switched to an android for an HTC or Samsung (S2), is the fact that some things about the bare bones about it don't perform. And this is why i go back and forth about staying with BB. If you look at all the basic functions of a Blackberry, they will work and work well beyond expectations. I'm talking about call quality, battery (2years and still decent), SPEAKERPHONE (highly overlooked), software is solid (although lagging now that its getting older and also since I've seen faster phones), decent camera (needs a big upgrade), emails work perfectly etc.
Without all the apps and all the aesthetics, the BB's out there still perform as a solid PHONE, and although some phone reviews I hear about HTCs, Samsungs etc... lack in some department, one of those features to me based on today's technologies... should have been fixed a long time ago. I don't think there is any reason to have a bad speakerphone or one that is not loud enough, bad battery or slow software. |
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| jchung52 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dior Homme
As am I trying to hold on to my 9700 since i got it in Jan of 2010, it is not only the longest I have ever had a phone, I am holding out as much as I can until my 3 years is up or if I can find another better option. I don't need to upgrade right now so buying a new phone isn't gonna kill me.
However, one of the reason why I have not switched to an android for an HTC or Samsung (S2), is the fact that some things about the bare bones about it don't perform. And this is why i go back and forth about staying with BB. If you look at all the basic functions of a Blackberry, they will work and work well beyond expectations. I'm talking about call quality, battery (2years and still decent), SPEAKERPHONE (highly overlooked), software is solid (although lagging now that its getting older and also since I've seen faster phones), decent camera (needs a big upgrade), emails work perfectly etc.
Without all the apps and all the aesthetics, the BB's out there still perform as a solid PHONE, and although some phone reviews I hear about HTCs, Samsungs etc... lack in some department, one of those features to me based on today's technologies... should have been fixed a long time ago. I don't think there is any reason to have a bad speakerphone or one that is not loud enough, bad battery or slow software. |
The gf's 4S has such a ty speakerphone. Also when I've talked on hers or she's on it, mute button is often hit while talking (cheek touches screen). Is there some way to fix that? Or is that a simple issue of "don't hold the phone so close to your face" fix? |
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