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New Production PC help (pg. 2)
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anakratis
And I will most likely get 8GB of RAM as stated above. |
I think you should get 8GB of RAM and nothing less. :) |
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| aquila |
| quote: | Originally posted by Constantin
Well the i7 is like a man that can lift 100 kg and i5 is like a man that can lift 50 kg. Don't be a cheap ass and go for the i7 you won't regret it! |
I always like to think of the i5 as a sports car running world record lap times, and the i7 running the same lap times whilst towing a caravan. |
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| Constantin |
| btw what's your budget ? |
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| Anakratis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Constantin
btw what's your budget ? |
ballpark 1.5k usd |
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| Constantin |
| Go for the Intel Core i7 2600 3.40GHz (~400$) on a mobo Intel DH67CL rev. B3 (~120$) for rams I recommend a 4x kit of 8gb (should be max 100$),for storage use a SSD for Windows and your DAW (60gb = ~200$) and 1tb hdd or a raid config of 2x500 hdd,as for the video card I strongly recommend to stay away of ATI(they are firecrackers with drivers written by monkeys), the rest of the money invest in to a computer case with a silent & nice ventilation and a proper power suply. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Constantin
Go for the Intel Core i7 2600 3.40GHz (~400$) on a mobo Intel DH67CL rev. B3 (~120$) for rams I recommend a 4x kit of 8gb (should be max 100$),for storage use a SSD for Windows and your DAW (60gb = ~200$) and 1tb hdd or a raid config of 2x500 hdd,as for the video card I strongly recommend to stay away of ATI(they are firecrackers with drivers written by monkeys), the rest of the money invest in to a computer case with a silent & nice ventilation and a proper power suply. |
I think I like this new guy. |
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| Anakratis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Constantin
Go for the Intel Core i7 2600 3.40GHz (~400$) on a mobo Intel DH67CL rev. B3 (~120$) for rams I recommend a 4x kit of 8gb (should be max 100$),for storage use a SSD for Windows and your DAW (60gb = ~200$) and 1tb hdd or a raid config of 2x500 hdd,as for the video card I strongly recommend to stay away of ATI(they are firecrackers with drivers written by monkeys), the rest of the money invest in to a computer case with a silent & nice ventilation and a proper power suply. |
I'll have you know, I'm very picky. So the ugly color scheme of the motherboard just won't do. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Alternatively, video games do not take advantage of the extra processing power, so a lot of gamers just buy i5s.
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That's not really true. There's still a benefit because of background processes. Back when the new iX line launched, there were a few benchmarks that showed a performance increase from an i5 to an i7 because of overall PC performance, not just the actual application (a game in this case). Assuming the game was CPU bottlenecking it any point. There's similarities in other applications, especially when the GPU shrinks back and the primary load is on the CPU. However, new GPU technology actually draws focus away from the CPU which once again gives you a performance boost.
Regardless, the i7 is so cheap and awesome that you might as well go for it. It won't cost much more than the i5, which is more popular in laptops because of lower heat and better battery life.
I'm still running a 2-year old i7-930 and it hasn't skipped a beat. I'm also on triple channel RAM (3x2Gb) which is more for gaming but it does help with sample heavy VSTs such as Omnisphere and Trillian. |
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| closedcircle |
The funny thing is, no matter the machine, you can always find a way to max it. Most computers today, seems even with tons of memory, the processor is only so good. Also, they are working on the storage component, disks have memory in them for faster performance but, it's only so good, just like the memory, just like the processor. Every machine has a limit, and it's easy to reach the limit, very easy without bouncing files to audio. Even if you are building the tracks from raw synthesis, reactor or Kyma
http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Company/WebHome
Which is better then Reaktor, but it's $$$. What is Kyma? It's custom software, a tracker, and the ability to generate sounds, any sound, all custom. Pretty dope and the interface is fast. I'd recommend it if you need something else then Windows / Mac PC's or if you use things like a power core, etc. I'd rather have a Windows PC, a MAC and Kyma, killer combo for producing anything. Ridiculous, but that would be one sick ass DAW.
but it proves the point, Processors are used to generate waveforms, their machines have no RAM, ram is for sample loading, not for effects, real soft synths are all #'s, hence all CPU.
Memory helps with loading and running multiple programs, loading WAV's or AIFF's. Hence bouncing to disk is the best method of building tracks, period, end of story, since Memory is the strongest asset of a computer today, and even 8 GB of memory is enough to load 100 tracks, or even 200 each with a different sound.
I'd go for a decent build on a machine, and using 2 machines or using the single machine you have to max efficiency.
I've just produced for 15+ years, and "beating the machine" is easy, unless you are using a super computer or something. 2 cores, 4 cores, 8 cores, bah, maybe with 1,000 cores, 1,000 processors then you could be sloppy, but not really. Most software has memory leaks it in, or processing leaks.
Or some stuff, like complex routing for delay loops or something, really eat a CPU sometimes. Then soft synths, they can use a lot of processing power. Bounce to disk often, kill the soft synth, but keep the Midi. Cubase had a decent "Phreeze" thing in it, but on others you can just save the present, unload the synth, and take a note at the setting.
It's a good habit to "bounce to disk."
#1 you don't run out of CPU
#2 if you focus on the audio mix, earlier the better
#3 you can even "bounce individual tracks, after heavy compression, eq'ing, effects."
#4 focusing on the mix, focusing on the audio, helps build better tracks
Even if I was using a super computer, composing without bouncing to audio, all you are doing when making a track is mixing, sorta, since the mix = the track. After a certain amount of time producing, you might get what I'm saying. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by closedcircle
The funny thing is, no matter the machine, you can always find a way to max it. Most computers today, seems even with tons of memory, the processor is only so good. Also, they are working on the storage component, disks have memory in them for faster performance but, it's only so good, just like the memory, just like the processor. Every machine has a limit, and it's easy to reach the limit, very easy without bouncing files to audio.
I'd go for a decent build on a machine, and using 2 machines or using the single machine you have to max efficiency.
I've just produced for 15+ years, and "beating the machine" is easy, unless you are using a super computer or something. 2 cores, 4 cores, 8 cores, bah, maybe with 1,000 cores, 1,000 processors then you could be sloppy, but not really. Most software has memory leaks it in, or processing leaks.
Or some stuff, like complex routing for delay loops or something, really eat a CPU sometimes. Then soft synths, they can use a lot of processing power. Bounce to disk often, kill the soft synth, but keep the Midi. Cubase had a decent "Phreeze" thing in it, but on others you can just save the present, unload the synth, and take a note at the setting.
It's a good habit to "bounce to disk."
#1 you don't run out of CPU
#2 if you focus on the audio mix, earlier the better
#3 you can even "bounce individual tracks, after heavy compression, eq'ing, effects."
#4 focusing on the mix, focusing on the audio, helps build better tracks
Even if I was using a super computer, composing without bouncing to audio, all you are doing when making a track is mixing, sorta, since the mix = the track. After a certain amount of time producing, you might get what I'm saying. |
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| closedcircle |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Posterity |
Cute man ;)
Good luck on tracks, a little geek helps make good tracks. ;) |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by closedcircle
Cute man ;)
Good luck on tracks, a little geek helps make good tracks. ;) |
What's cute is that you're talking down to people, many of whom run circles around you, pretty much telling them what they already know. |
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