I guess the rolleyes didn't go well down there either. I never meant to be dismissive of any points made, I wasn't even arguing any of your points. I used the fellatio metaphor because of the reaction the rolleyes got me.
Wow, calm down yourself.
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Redd
I guess the rolleyes didn't go well down there either. I never meant to be dismissive of any points made, I wasn't even arguing any of your points. I used the fellatio metaphor because of the reaction the rolleyes got me.
Wow, calm down yourself.
Oh... your two posts combined made you look angry, and I was taken aback because I didn't understand what the anger was for.
All right, let's all calm down and look for more naked pictures of Christina Hendricks. Now THAT's really serious business :gsmile:
Redd
I didn't think they were nudes?
Redd
where is VAR when you need him
de+
quote:
Originally posted by woscar
I can't stand that demagogue
Znack
You can't really call him a demagogue. He's irish and critizises christianity as much as islam
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Znack
You can't really call him a demagogue. He's irish and critizises christianity as much as islam
disapproving a person, especially a political leader, who wins support by exciting people's emotions rather than by having good ideas
Sounds about right :conf:
Znack
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
In a sense, and as counter-intuitive as it may sound when I drop the three letter answer, yes. The decrease in religiosity levels in Europe and Canada are correlated with many socio-economical changes, such as income gap and general development levels.
Here, just so you can have a taste, let's pick the US as an example and see what the states with the lowest HDI are (that's how they're ordered", and compare it with their Gini coefficient and ILJ Index, shall we? ILJ stands for "I Love Jesus Index" in the following table, and represents the percentage of people surveyed by Gallup who responded the question "Is religion an important part of your daily life?" in the affirmative.
State
HDI (rank)
Gini Co. (rank)
ILJI
HDI comparable to
Mississippi
0.867 (#51)
0.468 (#40)
85
Luxembourg
Alabama
0.888 (#49)
0.472 (#45)
82
Israel
South Carolina
0.904 (#43)
0.461 (#32)
80
Sweden
Tennessee
0.899 (#45)
0.468 (#40)
79
Hong Kong
Louisiana
0.889 (#48)
0.475 (#47)
78
Iceland
Arkansas
0.894 (#46)
0.458 (#30)
78
Denmark
Georgia
0.922 (#38)
0.468 (#40)
76
Slightly less than Australia
North Carolina
0.929 (#31)
0.464 (#34)
76
Australia
Oklahoma
0.890 (#47)
0.454 (#26)
75
Israel
Kentucky
0.900 (#44)
0.466 (#36)
74
Japan
Texas
0.934 (#26)
0.469 (#46)
74
Slightly less than Norway
With the notable exception of one outlier (Texas), these are amongst the poorest states in the US (and, if you compare it to the world in general, they're not low indices). Texas has got, however, one of the worst income distributions in the country, and the other states aren't exactly beacons of equality either, which still points to a negative correlation between wealth and equality, on the one hand, and religiosity, on the other. So, yeah, fix this first (without slagging religious people off) and they'll either be more civil (is there a religious nutter here? No; are all TA's atheists? No) or just downright irreligious. Isn't it what happened in Canada/Europe/Oceania/Japan?
Battling religion head on without tackling these other problems first has only led to more fundamentalism, if anything.
Where on earth do you get these numbers? They're not only wrong, but completely absurd.
How can anyone seriously argue that religion enhances gender equality and reduces the pay gap? The wage gap is virtually eradicated in most OECD countries, and in the most religious countries, women can't work.
Between U.S. states, all the top states are also liberal and less religious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_HDI
Not until 11'th place you find a state in the Bible Belt, and the most religious are clearly clustered at the bottom of the list.
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Znack
Where on earth do you get these numbers? They're not only wrong, but completely absurd.
Are they? Interesting, how so?
quote:
Originally posted by Znack
How can anyone seriously argue that religion enhances gender equality and reduces the pay gap? The wage gap is virtually eradicated in most OECD countries, and in the most religious countries, women can't work.
I don't know how someone can seriously say that but, while we're at it, read my post again - I said the EXACT opposite.
Originally posted by Znack
Between U.S. states, all the top states are also liberal and less religious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_HDI
Not until 11'th place you find a state in the Bible Belt, and the most religious are clearly clustered at the bottom of the list.
Yup, and that's exactly what I said.
How are those numbers absurd again, now that they fit your view?
Redd
:stongue:
Lira
Just found the perfect excuse to post this video:
Znack's reaction to this thread :)
(Only makes sense if you don't speak the language)
Znack
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Sorry, did i read your post completely in reverse?
In that case I'm not sure, if you meant "three letter answer, yes." in reply to pkc's sarcastic post, about problems being less with religion mixed into it - which you apparently disagreed with. That was the reason for my answer.
