Seems a lot of EDM artists/producers prefer tracks without vocals. How do you guys feel about it?
Normie
I think the reason is decent vocalists are hard to come by and many aren't used to working with vocalists or the vocals themselves (mixing and such). If they were more available/accessible they'd get used more - at least at the Non pro level.
And of course $$$$$ - More vocal/vocalists, less profit for the one man band.
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Seems a lot of EDM artists/producers prefer tracks without vocals. How do you guys feel about it?
wayfinder
most trance vocals are . not because the singers are bad, however.
grievance one: noodling over the same bass note during the first verse. that has to stop. every ing song starts with 2 minutes of the same bass note (the traditional DJ-can't-mix intro) and of course they'd have the girl singing there already so she has to noodle around that one note. it all sounds the ing same. try it yourself: take ANY vocal trance track and after the first verse, continue with "heaven holds a sense of wonder" (from delerium - silence). it ALWAYS works. they're all the same empty, boring track.
grievance two: the lyrics are . there are two or three notable exceptions, but damn the situation overall is bad. it's embarrassing to even listen to on your own, let alone in a group of people
grievance three: everything's a ing lullaby. breathy, dreamy girl's voice...
clay
vocals in edm, trance especially is lame. there are exceptions.
Sensuerea
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Originally posted by wayfinder
grievance two: the lyrics are . there are two or three notable exceptions, but damn the situation overall is bad. it's embarrassing to even listen to on your own, let alone in a group of people
This. So true.
J.L.
I don't think it's fair to assess vocal tracks and instrumental tracks. All in all, I tend to prefer male vocals in EDM, since they don't all sound like the "sweet blue ocean angel clear sky heavenly dream innocent desire" and same old cliche type of sound and lyrics that surround trance.
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Looney4Clooney
essential. People associate with words. They don't have to be lame. But having words will make your track much more appealing.
Sensuerea
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
essential. People associate with words. They don't have to be lame. But having words will make your track much more appealing.
Generally yes, but not exactly in EDM. Can you give one example of EDM track that had vocals you associated with?
Looney4Clooney
nope. I don't like them. But what i like, and what tends to sell which is an indication of what people gravitate to are two different things
LMFAO is a prime example. Minus the vocals, those tracks would of made no dent at all. The vocals, and the personality behind the vocals is what makes that group accessible and likeable. And this isn't to sound sexist but it is backed by study and that is to say girls like singing, You want to sell to 50% of the population, have lyrics.
stewart.m
i like vocal dance tracks a lot some are cheesy i agree but to be fair most are well produced and contain some good lyrics.
Beatflux
I hate it when lyrics are written out like poetry, without any thought given to the rhythm and the music that the lyrics will sit over.
This goes for EDM and especially rap.
One example is "The Reason(Niton)" You can hear it was just tacked onto the original track, and most of the time it sounds off.
Looney4Clooney
lets use Deadmau5 as a n example
his 4x4 had 3 singles. The highest charting one had vocals. Most would say that wasn't the best track at least producers or djs.
I don't think you should add anything just to sell, but if you want to sell, you need vocals. It really is that simple.
