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Spent Almost A Year Trying To Master ARP's. Now I'm Sick Of Trying. Any Help?!?!?!?!? (pg. 2)
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by MIKE333ACE
It's the sound that I couldnt get right. when i put its cutoff and sustain up, it just goes generally bad no matter what preset i use. I cant get that epic feel that i want..
Im sorry if i havnt explained it very well, its kinda hard to.. |
Dont use presets. It really is that simple. |
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| Deillon |
| If you spent a year on on what you think is a technique, but rather is a tool, you are doing something very wrong.. |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Welcome to at least four more years of frustration before you put something out that anyone actually wants to listen to. Seriously. |
+1. I have been "producing" for four years now, and i'm definitely getting there, finally feel at home with this, but I still lack knowledge/experience in some areas, another year of pure practice will do the trick.
Whoever "discovered" this 5 year period was damn right about it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| two years if you are talented |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
two years if you are talented |
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15#post11249715
Yoink: See edit in first post. Had to borrow it because, even when I don't know what you're talking about (because I am an ignorant schmuck on my best days), I know you know what you're talking about. |
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| MIKE333ACE |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15#post11249715
Yoink: See edit in first post. Had to borrow it because, even when I don't know what you're talking about (because I am an ignorant schmuck on my best days), I know you know what you're talking about. |
meh, atleast after reading that I can calm down a bit about how far my producing skills need to be in a certain amount of time. It looks like i'll have to wait till the five year check point to see if im doing any good. |
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| johncannons1 |
nexus has a preset which I think is called arp or something. Use this as a start, and try layering several sounds to get the thick rich colour that he gets in that track.
Remember those guys have been producing for YEARS and YEARs and more YEARs. you arent going to be able to create something like that straight away.
there are some good presets in sylenth or you can make your own by use detune saws. I think nexus would have a thicker sound that a sound that you would program in sylenth so use sylenth to fill in some space.
Try creating the sounds without the reverb and delay first.
If it sounds epic without that on it then it will sounds better with it.
this is IMO but just something to try. Layer Layer Layer. :D |
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| MIKE333ACE |
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
nexus has a preset which I think is called arp or something. Use this as a start, and try layering several sounds to get the thick rich colour that he gets in that track.
Remember those guys have been producing for YEARS and YEARs and more YEARs. you arent going to be able to create something like that straight away.
there are some good presets in sylenth or you can make your own by use detune saws. I think nexus would have a thicker sound that a sound that you would program in sylenth so use sylenth to fill in some space.
Try creating the sounds without the reverb and delay first.
If it sounds epic without that on it then it will sounds better with it.
this is IMO but just something to try. Layer Layer Layer. :D |
Alrite then, thanks for this. Looks like i have some layering to try out a bit more. |
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| johncannons1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MIKE333ACE
Alrite then, thanks for this. Looks like i have some layering to try out a bit more. |
Also reference tracks by Alex morph and keep referencing. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
Also reference tracks by Alex morph and keep referencing. |
Yes, this can't be stressed enough! If it doesn't sound exactly like Alex morph it's and you should start a new track. |
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| Deillon |
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
nexus has a preset which I think is called arp or something. Use this as a start, and try layering several sounds to get the thick rich colour that he gets in that track. |
Nexus does not have a preset which is called Arp. Nexus has presets which have the arpeggiator enabled. Do you know what an arpeggiator is?
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
I think nexus would have a thicker sound that a sound that you would program in sylenth so use sylenth to fill in some space. |
This is probably because you can't design a sound in sylenth. If you only use presets, then maybe nexus sounds thicker. Oh wait, nexus does not have its own sound, because its a rompler.
| quote: | Originally posted by johncannons1
this is IMO but just something to try. Layer Layer Layer. :D |
I concur, less is more. If somethint does not sound good from the start, layering will not help. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Look I'm not sure what the problem is.
People seem to always overcomplicate everything, myself included.
But focus on the basics man.
First, you don't really have a whole lot of experience, so you shouldn't be comparing yourself to Alex Morph. That will kill your motivation faster than anything.
Second, I tend to think a good arp comes down to the sounds, more than the fxs, although the fxs will obviously add that extra bit of magic if you know what you're doing. To this day I still have issues finding the perfect settings.
I know Tyas loves to layer his virus with logics ex2 for arps (for his leads too). The virus makes a warm, lush, wide sound, the ex2 makes a brittle, sharp, abrasive sound. Combined they wind up creating a very sharp, yet warm and large arp sound. Synth 1 can also create some really nice sounds when layered with sylenth.
I'd stick to layering whatever you do. It gets you the best of both worlds, rather being stuck to the sonic flavor of 1 thin sounding vst. Maybe I suck at programming that much, but I can rarely make an arp I'm pleased with using just 1 vst. They always sound thin no matter how the sound is made. I highly recommend layering to solve this. Just seems easier to get punch in your sounds this way.
With bass I'm finding you don't always need to layer, as you can just add distortion. Even still I always layer my bass, and I also always layer my synths too. At least 90% of the time at least.
Purists will probably tell me thats the wrong way. But it works better than anything else I've tried, so its what I do. |
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