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COR MD: What took Lira's breath away? (pg. 2)
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Chimney
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Except, like you said, asthma doesn't just randomly appear.


Actually it does. Asthma presents itself in two forms, the congenital one and another form which to this day is not really figured out how it appears, although it is known to be caused by external factors.

OT: Lira, go to a physician and ask to do a Spirometry test (Lung Test) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirometry

This will show if there is any affection to your lung capacity and the dynamics between the volume, power et cetera. This is a simple test, used by most physicians to determine whether or not you can suffer from a restrictive or obstructive disease.

You didn't write anything about a fever, but ask them to take the value of you eritrocites sedimentary value and an eventual Protein C test (these take a few minutes) to rule out an infection or inflamation.

There are tons of lung pathologies that present themselves the way you described, but don't jump to hasty conclusions.

EDIT: Just for the record:

- Do you smoke?
- Do you cough?
- Do you have any history of cardiac disease? (including family)
- When was the last time you had any problems like these?
Sushipunk
quote:
Originally posted by Chimney


This is why I love the COR :) And why I suspect Marcus does too.

Med student, yeah. Awesome post, Chimney.
Silky Johnson
Actually pneumonia can be transmissable, and it's not like pneumonia is some elusive thing to diagnose. You can hear fluid in the lungs upon auscultation, then they confirm it with a chest xray. Normally it's accompanied by elevated temperature as well.

What are your other symptoms aside from "I can't breathe" that would make the docs think it's a flu? Do you have a cough? Fever? Any secretions in any part of your airway, and if so, what do they look like?
Do your symptoms persist all the time and are they accompanied by pain? Or do they only appear at certain times? Is there anything that makes the symptoms better or worse?

Did the doctor even listen to your chest? A face xray wtf.
Lilith
Has there been a vote for AIDS yet?


You'll know when pneumonia really kicks in, it'll be like breathing with lungs full of sand and you'll have no energy.
Meat187
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
A face xray wtf.


What's wrong with your face?


quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
Actually it does. Asthma presents itself in two forms, the congenital one and another form which to this day is not really figured out how it appears, although it is known to be caused by external factors.


Well, yes and no. As you say it's usually an external factor and "it's not figured out" surely doesn't say it appears out of nowhere.
Also, let's not rule out autoimmune. The body can indeed develop spontaneous reactions that might present with symptoms similar to asthma but have actually a cause that... HOLY ING , IT'S LUPUS!!!!!
Salegon
Very unlikely, but interesting read, though.
IPF

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In the UK IPF kills about 5,000 pa[18] (more than leukemia or ovarian cancer).[17] A famous occurrence of IPF was Evel Knievel, a famous stuntman. He died of IPF.
OrangestO
Tom Cruise?

Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Do you have any other symptoms like coughing or slime in the respiratory tract (typical flu symptoms)?

Some coryza and I feel my upper respiratory tract is often congested... but, other than that - no, nothing remarkable, really.
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Originally posted by Meat187
This started just a short while ago, right? Sounds like Asthma, except that it would just appear out of nowhere unless you've been exposed to some new allergen.

A friend told me this yesterday,
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Originally posted by Meat187
Until further tests are performed I, as your doctor, order you to listen to Para Para once a day. That should help.

Before, during, or after lunch?
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Marcus, I'm sure you would have considered any food allergies? Given that you have pretty harsh reactions to animal proteins (is that what it is?)... Any chance that something has made its way into your diet that wasn't intended, by accident?

Actually, that's a very good question... Hmm...
quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
OT: Lira, go to a physician and ask to do a Spirometry test (Lung Test) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirometry

This will show if there is any affection to your lung capacity and the dynamics between the volume, power et cetera. This is a simple test, used by most physicians to determine whether or not you can suffer from a restrictive or obstructive disease.

Kay!
quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
You didn't write anything about a fever, but ask them to take the value of you eritrocites sedimentary value and an eventual Protein C test (these take a few minutes) to rule out an infection or inflamation.

There are tons of lung pathologies that present themselves the way you described, but don't jump to hasty conclusions.

All right :)
quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
- Do you smoke?
- Do you cough?
- Do you have any history of cardiac disease? (including family)
- When was the last time you had any problems like these?

I don't smoke, nor have I ever smoked and/or lived with people who did; no coughs; no cardiac diseases in the family; this is the very first time in my life I've had a similar problem.

Weird, huh? :p
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Actually pneumonia can be transmissable, and it's not like pneumonia is some elusive thing to diagnose. You can hear fluid in the lungs upon auscultation, then they confirm it with a chest xray. Normally it's accompanied by elevated temperature as well.

The very first thing the first doctor did was rule out pneumonia (which I thought could be a good candidate). He tried to listen to my lungs from every possible angle with the stethoscope, but found nothing (so your last question is answered here). The second doctor didn't really look worried about it either, having done the same just in case.

A chest xray is also in order :)
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
What are your other symptoms aside from "I can't breathe" that would make the docs think it's a flu? Do you have a cough? Fever? Any secretions in any part of your airway, and if so, what do they look like?

No cough, no fever, transparent coryza.
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Do your symptoms persist all the time and are they accompanied by pain? Or do they only appear at certain times? Is there anything that makes the symptoms better or worse?

It gets worse when I exercise, and it's becoming more frequent these days for whatever reason. No pain whatsoever, just the feeling that there isn't enough air around me.
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Originally posted by Lilith
Has there been a vote for AIDS yet?

Damn, I really shouldn't have gone to Nigeria :( :p
quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
You'll know when pneumonia really kicks in, it'll be like breathing with lungs full of sand and you'll have no energy.

This is somewhat familiar :p
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Well, yes and no. As you say it's usually an external factor and "it's not figured out" surely doesn't say it appears out of nowhere.
Also, let's not rule out autoimmune. The body can indeed develop spontaneous reactions that might present with symptoms similar to asthma but have actually a cause that... HOLY ING , IT'S LUPUS!!!!!

:stongue:
quote:
Originally posted by Salegon
Very unlikely, but interesting read, though.
IPF

:eek:

Edit: Oh, my pulmonary functions are apparently fine, we can rule this out. Phew!
Silky Johnson
Worse with exercise definitely sounds like asthma.
DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
Worse with exercise definitely sounds like asthma.


Or, if it is a respiratory tract infection, exercise would certainly also make it worse.

Go have the Spirometry test, but I have a feeling it's a low level respiratory tract infection. They can actually last ages and sometimes can drag on to the point you think you have some chronic disorder just because you can't function to your usual ability, yet don't show major flu signs etc.

Lira
Oh, bugger, asthma!? Now that I'm almost thirty? That's more like arsema :(

Let me take all these tests first and then I'll post the results. If it's asthma I'll think of something to reward you guys for the good work.

There's just one thing I can't understand though: If it is asthma, and it may well be it, shouldn't the doctors have noticed it when they stethoscope'd the hell out of my chest? Or is it unnoticeable if it's just a mild crisis?
Chimney
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Oh, bugger, asthma!? Now that I'm almost thirty? That's more like arsema :(

Let me take all these tests first and then I'll post the results. If it's asthma I'll think of something to reward you guys for the good work.

There's just one thing I can't understand though: If it is asthma, and it may well be it, shouldn't the doctors have noticed it when they stethoscope'd the hell out of my chest? Or is it unnoticeable if it's just a mild crisis?


They should. A so called "wheezing" sound, which is pretty easy to hear.

I have to agree with Jenny. What's up with the X-ray...I'd order an Xray if I suspected either a tumor or pulmonary emphysema.
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