I came across some classic Trance and I found strangely that some songs way sped warp speed really high to like 150-160 BPM. Now I didn't have a problem listening to it, as I felt like I was in a Speedy Hardcore type of listening experience.
these songs play rather at a fast BPM, still enjoyable though as these are classics that are very well done.
I just wanted to ask you guys, have you ever played tracks like these at a slower BPM? Such as 130-135. Have you heard Loops of Infinity (Apr. Remix) at 130-135 BPM? I think that song sounds really good when slowed down. actually, I enjoy most classic Trance at a slower BPM. I dunno why. I can definitely listen better to all the layers and the structure of the track.
what do you guys think?
lostpsyte
The original and radio edit of loops are infinity are at that speed too. Also, is there even an "apeggiators remix" because the main focus of that track in all versions I've heard is the arpeggiators.
I think the tracks were designed to be listened to at a certain tempo, and that modern day trance isn't anywhere near as experimental as it used to be.
SYSTEM-J
Yeah, we were doing this to some old Harthouse tracks the other day. A lot of these old tracks sound nice but need to be pitched at -8 to fit in with anything else. I think it's instructive that most of the biggest classics from that era were generally at much slower speeds. We Came In Peace was at 120bpm!
Here's one in particular that's just laughably speedy. As you can see from the Youtube preview, the vinyl lists the BPM at 157! The fastest I've ever danced to was about 147, at a psy-trance party. I'm not even sure how you can dance at 157 beats per minute:
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Originally posted by lostpsyte
The original and radio edit of loops are infinity are at that speed too. Also, is there even an "apeggiators remix" because the main focus of that track in all versions I've heard is the arpeggiators.
However, despite running at 170 BPM, I don't feel that the track is very nosebleed or intense in the least, which is another good example that tempo alone won't necessarily define a track's harshness or brutality. Another example, from a group you wouldn't expect:
SYSTEM-J
The Monolake track works because it doesn't really feel like a dancefloor record, but the other track just sounds daft, like a pastiche of a "rave" track. The tempo alone doesn't define intensity or harshness, but it certainly defines the speed of your dancing.
meriter
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm not even sure how you can dance at 157 beats per minute
and let's not forget The First Rebirth, which has 160 bpm.
Ian
On J00Fs last classic euphoria cd, he used Jones & Stephenson - The first rebirth at a much much slower bpm than usual. I've grown up only hearing it fast & was amazed that it actually didn't sound too bad slow.
Fair enough, I've only seen the version on the album and various compilations.
Sand Leaper
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm not even sure how you can dance at 157 beats per minute
Really? The first thing that comes to mind is how that clearly isn't a problem for people at drum n bass parties. And that's before you start watching soca and footwork videos on Youtube...
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Really? The first thing that comes to mind is how that clearly isn't a problem for people at drum n bass parties. And that's before you start watching soca and footwork videos on Youtube...
You dance to drum 'n bass at half-time. Almost all drum 'n bass has at least one prominent rhythmic element in half time. In jungle, the breaks would be fast but the sub-bass was slow. In drum 'n bass, the bass might speed up but the beat is generally half-step. I've danced to it at 175 when wired, but not all night. That Infinite Aura track, by contrast, is a typical trance rhythm that implores full speed dancing.
And footwork is just ostentatious bull.
Sand Leaper
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You dance to drum 'n bass at half-time.
I don't, and when I went to see Calibre and Dub Phisix earlier this year, loads of people around me didn't either. Sure, you can't keep it up for a very long period of time without taking some breaks or having MDMA to help you, but apart from how long the gaps between these breaks would be, how is that any different from any other kind of electronic music?
