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Ableton Live or other DAWs for Live Shows (pg. 4)
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i have an APC
it does what it says it does. Not sure how it sucks. |
well they're probably not too bad if it's just for your own use at home. But they are of lightweight build and certainly not sturdy enough for regular gigging with imo. They just feel cheap and nasty really. A friend of mine has used an APC40 at a few parties (which I've played with) over the last few years and it's pretty much buggered, broken faders, knobs and buttons that are no longer backlit.
I use VCM600 and launchpad together, the APC doesn't even compare. You get what you pay for most of the time. |
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| TyeDynamite |
| quote: | Originally posted by meriter
I always thought it'd be useful to have some experience doing stand-up so when your crashes you can walk up and do really lame "SO WHATS THE DEAL WITH DEADMOUSE" typed comedy, like for an audience of cracked out e-tards at 4 am I'm sure it would go over really well
"SO I WENT TO SEE PAUL VAN DYKE THE OTHER DAY AND WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT HE DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE A LESBIAN!"
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"fuuuuuck yooou!" |
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: that's classic. I shall bring a joke book with me to each gig now. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
well they're probably not too bad if it's just for your own use at home. But they are of lightweight build and certainly not sturdy enough for regular gigging with imo. They just feel cheap and nasty really. A friend of mine has used an APC40 at a few parties (which I've played with) over the last few years and it's pretty much buggered, broken faders, knobs and buttons that are no longer backlit.
I use VCM600 and launchpad together, the APC doesn't even compare. You get what you pay for most of the time. |
I find the launchpad lacks physical markers to delineate sections and buttons. As far as construction, i think they are all pretty much the same. Same mechanisms, wouldn't be surprised if the parts are the same. And its so cheap, if you are gigging that much, 300$ is not really much. I mean these sort of midi controllers are only supposed to last one year anyways. And it is all in one unit. The less things the better. |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
I find the launchpad lacks physical markers to delineate sections and buttons. As far as construction, i think they are all pretty much the same. Same mechanisms, wouldn't be surprised if the parts are the same. And its so cheap, if you are gigging that much, 300$ is not really much. I mean these sort of midi controllers are only supposed to last one year anyways. And it is all in one unit. The less things the better. |
Good points, your right about the launchpad, gets a bit confusing at times regarding functtions and pages etc. But still, the build quality of these units is nowhere near the VCM600. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by junkproject
How is the nanokontrol 2? Is it plug and play out of the box with ableton. Do you have map it manually or is it already mapped to fader\volume\etc. |
the knobs feel surprisingly good, at least compared to how they look. had to map it manually, but i think there's some software that does it for you, but i said that . didnt take me more than a couple of minutes to map the faders&knobs plus find more stuff to map to the rest of the buttons.. only real complaint is that they couldve made the rubber thingies on the bottom bigger... |
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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
Live simply just sucks balls for DJing, sure it's great software for production and edits etc, but just feels wrong to dj with unless it's being used for effects and processing like Liebing's doing above.
And the akai APC's are rubbish. |
It's pretty unintuitive for DJing but if you can use it, you can do amazing things with it. Surgeon uses it and he is an utter beast with it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
i'm pretty sure ableton can do everything tractor does and then some. The only thing traktor does well is the file browser. But you can program an environment that would react just like traktor using and S4 in midi mode.
You don't have to have all your tracks already layed out. You also don't have to have all the tracks in sync and can use pitch shifting like a normal cdj setup. Tracktor needs AU / VST support. |
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| wayfinder |
| Live's timestretching likes to eat kickdrum transients |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
It's pretty unintuitive for DJing but if you can use it, you can do amazing things with it. Surgeon uses it and he is an utter beast with it. |
What's that, Live or the APC controller?
I've DJ'd extensively with live and have gone off it because it just sucked out the joy of mixing tunes for me, despite it's power and possibilities I've decided it's not for me as a DJ platform.
Paddy in the video I posted does amazing things with live.
I use it mostly for production work these days and I love it as a creative tool, but I have been contemplating going further with Live as a live performance tool lately, but need to invest in some more gear for that first. |
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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
What's that, Live or the APC controller?
I've DJ'd extensively with live and have gone off it because it just sucked out the joy of mixing tunes for me, despite it's power and possibilities I've decided it's not for me as a DJ platform.
Paddy in the video I posted does amazing things with live.
I use it mostly for production work these days and I love it as a creative tool, but I have been contemplating going further with Live as a live performance tool lately, but need to invest in some more gear for that first. |
Yeah, I mean Ableton. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by wayfinder
Live's timestretching likes to eat kickdrum transients |
if you don't know what you are doing, sure. |
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| wayfinder |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
if you don't know what you are doing, sure. |
well don't just talk down, enlighten us |
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