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Seandroid - If-I-Knew-What-Genre-This-Was-I-Would-Tell-You (WIP)
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| Seandroid |
A work in progress I'm pretty happy with, I think the transition into the drop is pretty clever. |
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| Evolve140 |
| It's cool man! Pretty progressive sounding stuff. Nice touches. |
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| Seandroid |
| Well thank you, fine sir :) |
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| EddieZilker |
| This could well turn into one of my favorites from you. Really shows promise. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
like the kick layering. When the bass first comes in, have it dry. I know you like things that are in your face and reverb just does the opposite so when you have something in the open, don't use reverb. I know this is just a scratch mix but that reverb just makes the bass not really fit with the kick which i think are equals in dance. I understand certain aesthetic uses of reverb with sidechain as an effect but in this case, at least until other things come in kill it.
Try not to use crashes , reverse or normal. I know it is silly to say son't do something but it is just a very dated and unoriginal way to create a noise based rise effect. Most of the guys you like are using noise as the crash with the sidechain pumping effect.
The groove is good. The snare and kick work great.
I find the biggest weakness is your concentration on sounds that just don't matter. They just take room in the mix and detract from what i think is a sound you want to be aggressive and in your face. Like those ambient sounds you use to build to that break. They are just not needed at least not then. They are also kinda generic and not really interesting so why bother.
I would focus on the one bass pattern, add layers that complement that. Easy thing would be to just add an octave. You could have some of those extra notes from the main part perhaps filtered in the beginning where you don't hear it but feel it or you need to create a greater divide between parts.
Arrangement wise, how you go from one bass pattern to another in such short time is sort of weird. It makes both seem kinda haphazard. I know the second one is just the first one with a bit more but it seems forced.
Again , during this main part, you have these really generic sounds that are trying to fil the harmony but the voice leading is really bad and it sounds akward. You also give it too much room. The main focus is the bass. Keep it there. Doesn't mean you can't have other stuff. That Deadmau5 track we both liked and everyone said sucked then i posted a harmonic analysis of it and everyone kinda buttoned it after that, well that track , listen to the groove parts. The parts tend to not compete but complement each other by doubling. Also since i brought up that track , and this is the second time you've done something ie the hihat one the kick which tends to mimic the type of hardrock beat where you are playing on the crash instead of the hi hat. YOu need to shape these so that they have more snap on the and of the beat. so you have the transient on say 1 and the & sort of bounces back. What this does is provide the continuous 8th pattern but playing quarter notes only. Try using 2 samples to do this. One for the transient and the other for the bounce back. There are many ways to get this effect. I mean you can do this with volume. Or a filter automation that slightly dips really quick. SHort open hat followed by a reverse open hat that you trigger at the same time so it doesn't take too long.
I think a good analogy is to think about say punk or hardrock. Basically, the more bad ass and in your face you want something to be, the less items you want people paying attention to. That is why the guitar tends to double the bass and the drums are also really simple.
Not really happy how i phrased things but hopefully it made sense. |
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| Seandroid |
Wow, thanks for the extended breakdown of your opinion. I appreciate that. I normally would 100% agree that I focus too much on the additional elements, but it was intentional on this track. I wanted a more trancey vibe for it to begin with. The reason the crash is just on every kick was just to add some energy and a heavy four on the floor feeling but I'll try your suggestion.
But yeah thanks again. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| i meant more the crashes for accenting phrases. The kick crash combo is fine, i think you will have better luck with a hihat and some saturation with some volume automation to give well say that sort of effect you hear with the release of the compressor. |
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| Evolve140 |
| I like this track because I know for a fact you aren't trying too hard and you're doing your own thing. Stay golden, Pony Boy. |
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| Excess |
| imo the most entertaining thing i've heard from you. this has wild written all over it :D. i find that the mixdown is a bit shrill/biased towards the high end. i think what i'd really like to hear is more low-midrange in your bassline (i usually feel this is a problematic in most of your tracks). professional electro producers have nailed the gritty bass design that you'll need to pull your productions to that level of quality |
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| TranceLover007 |
Nice to hear something good and solid again on TA site lol
After Richie in depth and very comprehensive review of your track, there is even no point to try to give you any technical recommendations/suggestions lol but I can always share my personal take on this prodcution or early WIP of it.
Cool and attractive (even to me :D ) Electro-Techno-House hybrid which works very well with today standards Sean and you my friend never disappoint man, always can expect something new and refreshing from you but I do have one question for you, did you ever finish all those WIP you share with us?????? :D :D :D
Always can count on my support ;)
Cheers,
Darek |
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