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Good Markus Schulz read... (pg. 2)
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| msilin |
Love the response. Any artist, in my opinion, who makes music purely for art's sake is not going to get very far. At some point, business does have to come into the picture. There's an ugly side to it but for musicians the huge upside is that they get to play around the world and spread their music to fans in all these different countries.
So I completely don't blame Markus for realizing that he has to do a few things that will get him main stage billing and gigs (which is good for us - come back to Avalon soon!). And if he can do this while staying proud and within the confines of what he likes making/doing, then great. Power to you Markus. Don't let online trolls affect you, although it does suck that they're on your own forum. |
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| GeminiZ |
| He speaks the truth and has a very good point. Should he get stuck and fade away with the old, or keep up to date with evolutionizing the sound, keeping up with what's hot. Ultimately I assume he still wants to stay alive and make his fair share of income so the positive choice would be to stay in touch with the most current style and revolutionize! |
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| GPC |
Haven't heard Scream yet so no comment on that but you have to respect the honesty. Such is the dilemma with EDM going mainstream and trying to maintain a career in said mainstream. Most of us oldtimers seem to have an aversion for anything remotely commercial and I will admit to being guilty of this.
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If you want to see me playing on the mainstages and in the big clubs in your city then I need songs like that. |
I'd rather see Markus at a small club but that's just me being selfish ;) |
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| trancension |
My problem with his one response to topereq....the "old" fans didn't start phasing out until he after started changing his style. He has his cause-reaction backwards. I'll admit the newer fans definitely want that "bold" style, but he had such a huge following of older, loyal fans...he didn't have to "sell out" or however you want to phrase his newest album. Go back two years, this guy had a great following of loyal oldies and new band wagon hoppers that just want the newest anthem. Now...he's alienated all his old fans, well, a lot of them. He even banned several of them from his forums because apparently saying stuff like "I like his older stuff better" got too annoying for him. I don't think any old fans even participate anymore on his forums because of his new style and personality.
My 2 cents on the topic.
With that said, I will be seeing him in a couple of weeks, and I know I will have a great time. But I don't agree with a lot of what he said. And obviously I don't agree with his new style. Too much anthem seeking. |
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| Trancelover24 |
Every DJ is facing this dilemma at the moment..
Here's Ferry's reasoning behind his reasoning to remix Bieber..
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| DaveT |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancension
My problem with his one response to topereq....the "old" fans didn't start phasing out until he after started changing his style. He has his cause-reaction backwards. I'll admit the newer fans definitely want that "bold" style, but he had such a huge following of older, loyal fans...he didn't have to "sell out" or however you want to phrase his newest album. Go back two years, this guy had a great following of loyal oldies and new band wagon hoppers that just want the newest anthem. Now...he's alienated all his old fans, well, a lot of them. He even banned several of them from his forums because apparently saying stuff like "I like his older stuff better" got too annoying for him. I don't think any old fans even participate anymore on his forums because of his new style and personality.
My 2 cents on the topic.
With that said, I will be seeing him in a couple of weeks, and I know I will have a great time. But I don't agree with a lot of what he said. And obviously I don't agree with his new style. Too much anthem seeking. |
When anyone changes in the slightest way you are going to alienate some of your fanbase - especially ones who get obsessed with a style you have and have moved on from. You can't please everyone. I know plenty of people who still love Markus now just as much as they did when he first got well known.
A good DJ/producer has to find his or her own path that gives his popularity growth while still being proud of the content he or she is creating. If he or she does it right, they are going to gain more fans than they lose. That is growth in popularity. This leads to more, bigger, and better bookings. That is the goal. |
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| Trancelover24 |
| By the way, I don't understand why all the hate. Markus' new album does have something for everyone. If we want to continue to enjoy watching our DJ's on the main stages of festivals, they gotta keep their name out there. I mean at Global Gathering the trance stage was in one of the medium size tents, the damn dub-step tent was larger and to make it worst, it was more packed than the trance tent. In any case, I love trance and do understand that these guys have to make a living. I for one, like the selection in the Album. |
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| Quazar |
I know what Markus means about playing deeper tracks and having the crowd not react. Armin said the same thing on twitter when asked about tracks by Airwave, Timewave, etc., he said he loves them but "the crowd goes flat".
That's why I'm glad I live here and can see him at Avalon, as we're one of the few crowds in the US than sticks around for the deeper, darker stuff, which is always my favorite part of his sets. |
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| fupaking |
| like it or not everyone changes tastes, if you haven't at all - your one of the few. I've gotten tired of fluffy vocally trance, and I and am recently starting to get back into techno and house/tech-house. I can even handle psy again! Luckily, when I hear a Markus set, I feel like I just want to party (other friends of mine who have been into Markus say that too). Unfortunately this can get my ageing self into trouble! Luckily there aren't too many DsJ out there that can do that for me these days. There's something the man does, and as long as he finds a way to keep doing it, even if he has to bend a little to get himself in front of people, but stays reasonably true to his own tastes, I'll still call him #1 in my book. I just can't see how he can pull a full-on Tiesto though, unless he (a) really likes that or (b) just cares about money. I don't think that's true about Markus, it's just like he's one of us. |
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| Titanium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancelover24
By the way, I don't understand why all the hate. Markus' new album does have something for everyone. If we want to continue to enjoy watching our DJ's on the main stages of festivals, they gotta keep their name out there. I mean at Global Gathering the trance stage was in one of the medium size tents, the damn dub-step tent was larger and to make it worst, it was more packed than the trance tent. In any case, I love trance and do understand that these guys have to make a living. I for one, like the selection in the Album. |
Most of the tracks sound the same with the same annoying big room electro sounds and crappy vocals. |
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| mmix |
I quickly listened to the every song on the album preview and thought all the tracks sounded terrible. Most of the tracks sound too alike and makes the typical trouse and brostep actually listenable in comparison.
It seems kind of insulting to his loyal fans to make these tracks with the intention of getting better gigs, especially with how he always says he doesn't play cheese and "slays unicorns" and how he goes "down the rabbit hole". It must be hard to please everyone, though.
There's still plenty of electronic artists who do quite well and still "keep it real" by making what they want to and playing what they want to play. They seem to find a way to evolve with current sounds without needing to make some farty track with cheesy vocals. |
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| GPC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
I know what Markus means about playing deeper tracks and having the crowd not react. Armin said the same thing on twitter when asked about tracks by Airwave, Timewave, etc., he said he loves them but "the crowd goes flat".
That's why I'm glad I live here and can see him at Avalon, as we're one of the few crowds in the US than sticks around for the deeper, darker stuff, which is always my favorite part of his sets. |
All the trance DJs seem to want the crowd to be going ape and fist pumping all night. Otherwise, they think the crowd isn't into it or maybe they think it looks bad to the promoters. When they just drop bomb after bomb, the crowd is just waiting for the next one. Pretty melody, boom, boom, boom. Repeat. That's not trance IMO. There is no state of anything going on. Throw in a deeper track and it just doesn't fit. They don't give the crowd time to get into it. You never get lost in the music.
And yes, thats we are so spoiled to get the long Markus sets here. He takes us somewhere. |
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