Hey yo, just started recently learning some music theory. Cool stuff, but damn lots to remember although it's fun. Anyway I'm trying to nail down this particular disco staple.
You'll hear it below every 2 bars after the 3:45 mark.
This is a major 6th dyad, correct? Just checking to make sure I'm putting everything I'm learning to use and always been trying to figure out how that particular sound was made.
Thanks!
Looney4Clooney
Hard to tell the exact voicing with saw chords but no, you will have an easier time thinking of this as a chord. It isn't a dyad even if it is just 2 notes as it is filling in a chord.
Sounds like a minor 7 with suspended 4 . Listening o. An iPad tho. Sorry I should say it is a minor 7 , but in terms of which variant or alteration , that would be my guess.
The major 6 interval , would come from the 7th and 5 th or inverted 1 and 3 but that isn't what is being voiced.
kadomony
Ok, the track is in B minor, and by experimenting playing the 2 notes of the stab, it seems that, to my ears, B and D are the notes that make it. However, the D is inverted to be the lower note. So that should be a major 6th, correct?
Actually experimenting more, it sounds like it could be DEB. What type of chord would that be? E7 inversion with the third omitted?
Evolve140
Don't forget there is heavy chorus on this stab, so if you are going to do relative experimentation, possibly experiment with an effect on and off of it.
L4c, how the hell do you write on an iPad? Sounds miserable to me.
kadomony
Yep, thanks. Found a tutorial that got me pretty close to that sound. Almost 100% positive it's DEB. Should be able to transpose it for my tracks.
Evolve140
Nice, post results when you get then. Chorus can add pretty significant harmonic content, so it's obviously a combination of a certain chord and the chorus itself.
Hope that helped!
Looney4Clooney
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Originally posted by kadomony
Ok, the track is in B minor, and by experimenting playing the 2 notes of the stab, it seems that, to my ears, B and D are the notes that make it. However, the D is inverted to be the lower note. So that should be a major 6th, correct?
Actually experimenting more, it sounds like it could be DEB. What type of chord would that be? E7 inversion with the third omitted?
the take home message is that this is a minor 7th chord. Every single stab you've ever heard in house is that. That is the sort of base chord to which you can alter. And since it is not isolated , you don't typically voice all the notes. What makes it hard is that this is a closed voicing and it is a saw wave. Saw waves just make it harder because of the overtones.
I'm doing renovations to my studio so ipad , or macbook, or my other mac book or my other 2 ipads is the only thing i can listen on for the moment. lol k that was meant to be funny.
The chord to me sounded like a minor 7th add 11.
what this means is that you have the minor 7, sorry i said sus 4 before but the fact that you also have the 3rd , you use 11 instead of 4. FOr some reason i heard it resolve to 3 at some point but anyways, doesn't matter.
The top not i can tell you for sure is the 11 of the chord - E
I also hear a 3rd but its so close to the 4 and you tend to hear the resolution even if it isn[t there. it is a little chunkier than that so i would say the 9th as well but then honestly, i doubt that would work in this instance just imagining the voicing with a saw. So i would say the root is there , I can't really hear it because the bass and my laptop speakers make it hard
B (C#)DE closed voicing in that order. The C# i'm just not sure. probably not but the 9th is usually the simplest way to colour a minor 7.
I think the point is that depending on the timbre, you would voice it different ways. And it also depends on how loud it is. You don't have to play the root if the bass is playing it, the 5 you can usually omit since the root will cover that with its first over tone.
The thing you need to understand it the chord, how to voice chords otherwise, you are just memorizing a block of notes that might work in one instance , and not in another.
kadomony
Excellent! Thanks man.
Looney4Clooney
just say your post with the notes , not sure if you had them in order but anyhow it seems your ear served you well. But as i said, knowing what these notes are will allow you to port them to any key.
tehlord
There's an A in there too. There's gotta be an A in there too.
LoveHate
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Originally posted by kadomony
Yep, thanks. Found a tutorial that got me pretty close to that sound.
