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Creating a "Wall of Sound" in Traktor?
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| kadomony |
Been trying to do this so I can bring in a track of a wildly different tempo, but can't seem to get the right combo of effects or controls to get it to sound the way I'm imagining.
What I want is a big reverb on the higher frequencies of the outgoing track to gradually go from no reverb time to infinity while the outgoing track is still playing, so everything is still heard, but there is now a layer of thick higher frequency reverb going. Then, I'd fade the outgoing track so all that's left is the reverb, then bring in the next track over the bed of noise, and then fade that noise out as the incoming track builds up.
Any tips? Thanks! |
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| itsamemario |
| group fx, with reverb on slot 3 (so it'll go on top of all the other fx you might have going at the same time), set it to an idioticly huge amount, wet button at 0, then just open it up fully, and stop the track you're playing with maybe a hp filter sweep, and then press stop, while the volume fader is still up so the tail on the delay just damps away. |
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| itsamemario |
| You might get good results using send fx also, I don't know, I have very little experience with TP2's send fx. |
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| J.L. |
That and use a delay. There is a kill switch on it that sounds like what you are looking for.
I have a lot of my functions on traktor mapped to a midi controller (well maschine in MIDI mode) to do multiple things at the same time.
For ex. by turning a knob, I automatically set the fx in the appropriate slots, turn them on, and turn up the dry/wet, filter etc...
It takes a bit of work and a lot of playing around to get things to work well, but once it does, it is very rewarding =)
Cheers. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by J.L.
That and use a delay. There is a kill switch on it that sounds like what you are looking for.
I have a lot of my functions on traktor mapped to a midi controller (well maschine in MIDI mode) to do multiple things at the same time.
For ex. by turning a knob, I automatically set the fx in the appropriate slots, turn them on, and turn up the dry/wet, filter etc...
It takes a bit of work and a lot of playing around to get things to work well, but once it does, it is very rewarding =)
Cheers. |
Are you thinking of the freeze button?
What's the best way to do this? I've seen a lot of guys whos mapped midi fighters etc. to turn on the effect and put it to a specified value at the same time, and I'd loooove to do that on my LaunchPad, but the drop-down menu in traktor makes mapping soooo tedious, that I almost think I'd get more bang for buck and easy sailing just routing traktor through ableton with some effects rack instead. |
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| kadomony |
| Thing with the reverb is it's constantly fed and updated from the currently playing track. So if I fade it out, the reverb goes with it. If I use the filter, the reverb is cut away. The freeze option decays as well. I need something that will hold a high-passed reverb infinitely. |
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| kadomony |
| Iceverb's freeze option holds a very long time, but unfortunately it also cuts out the track when activated. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by kadomony
Thing with the reverb is it's constantly fed and updated from the currently playing track. So if I fade it out, the reverb goes with it. If I use the filter, the reverb is cut away. The freeze option decays as well. I need something that will hold a high-passed reverb infinitely. |
Yeah, that' why I said stop the track, not fade out the track. As in press the stop button. If you've set the reverb size large enough, then you will get a nice long tail that naturally fades itself out, when you've reached 100% wet. It will sound a lot better than if you were to do it yourself, and it will give you 8 more bars to prepare the next transition.
And you need to put the filter BEFORE the reverb in the group fx chain, or it won't work. |
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| itsamemario |
If you absolutely want to do the fading out manually, then maybe try looping like an 8th or something, where it has the most consistent sound.
Say you have a group on fx unit 1, do filter on slot 1, delay on slot 2 and reverb on slot 3. 100% dry, slot 1 & 3 ON. filter at mid, reverb set to somewhere around 3:30ish.
Whenever you're ready to apply the reverb, activate the fx unit 1 on the mixer channel, start turning the dry/wet knob all the way up till 100% wet. start turning the filter upwards at around 75%, that way you don't get that annoying sound it makes around the neutral point (to be fair it's better in 2.5 than in TP2!). Then Turn on the delay at your own discretion, really. If you have it running alongside the buildup of the other track, some doubling at (50%) should work well to add energy, then just turn it towards the sun as the other track crescendos. You can even do some rythm stuff with it to the other beat after it drop if you'd like, the possibilities are LIMITLESS MWUAHAHAHAAAA MWUAHAHAHAHAHA.
When the track is drowned out enough, just hit the loop button and you have yourself a sustained, highpassed and reverberated signal that should sound consistent enough for your needs. |
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| kadomony |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
If you absolutely want to do the fading out manually, then maybe try looping like an 8th or something, where it has the most consistent sound.
Say you have a group on fx unit 1, do filter on slot 1, delay on slot 2 and reverb on slot 3. 100% dry, slot 1 & 3 ON. filter at mid, reverb set to somewhere around 3:30ish.
Whenever you're ready to apply the reverb, activate the fx unit 1 on the mixer channel, start turning the dry/wet knob all the way up till 100% wet. start turning the filter upwards at around 75%, that way you don't get that annoying sound it makes around the neutral point (to be fair it's better in 2.5 than in TP2!). Then Turn on the delay at your own discretion, really. If you have it running alongside the buildup of the other track, some doubling at (50%) should work well to add energy, then just turn it towards the sun as the other track crescendos. You can even do some rythm stuff with it to the other beat after it drop if you'd like, the possibilities are LIMITLESS MWUAHAHAHAAAA MWUAHAHAHAHAHA.
When the track is drowned out enough, just hit the loop button and you have yourself a sustained, highpassed and reverberated signal that should sound consistent enough for your needs. |
What I'm aiming for is to get rid of any kind of rhythmical sound so the beats don't clash. I got a pretty good result using your above suggestions, replacing the regular reverb with a T3. Seems to last a lot longer than the regular reverb.
Thanks! |
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| itsamemario |
| No problem. I'll experiment around a bit next time I fire up ol' Mixy. God knows she's getting all kinds of riled up since it's been a few days since I last tended to her. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| Have you tried reverb t3 or the simple reverb? I think the first one is the best for this purpose or a really wet delay although i've experienced unwanted delay loops after using this but may be my crap midi controller (bcd 2000) |
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