I've been trying for an hour now I think, from what I understand he's playing in the blues scale with some off scale notes, I like the dissonance and the way the chords resolve but I can't wrap my head around it, I become clueless in front of my keyboard.
I'm interested in the way he plays those chords between 0:15 and 0:30
What chords are those? how does he know what to play so it resolves so nicely?
If anybody could help or tell me if theres a name for that kind of stuff so I can google it, I would appreciate alot, thanks
itsamemario
I can't help on the chords, but I can tell you that was horrible to listen to.
Looney4Clooney
pretty simple but his voicings are atrocious.
to give you some context.
he is playing
a ii V i progression in g minor
best way is to just start off with the simplest voicing and add / subtract from there
the dominant is on D but it is a suspended dominant meaning you have a 4 instead of the 3.
i is on G
The Eb chord is a 3rd inversion half dimished chord
that embellisment chord is a technique in jazz using parallel chords in this case jumping to A.
the bass note would be
Eb, D , G , A
The soprano note is D(alteres the ii chord) held for the V i and then chords up a whole tone to E.
start off with simple 7th chords. And then go from there.
here just use this as a starting place
#1 Eb , G, A , D,
#2 D , - , - , - ( #1 but lower the eb. Chord is a Dsus4)
F , G, Bb, D ( i) but 4rth inversion
G, A , C, E (same + 2 semitones as # 3 )
itsamemario
Haha, man I wish I knew the names of notes and , I bet my music would be a lot better if I did.
Deillon
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Originally posted by itsamemario
Haha, man I wish I knew the names of notes and , I bet my music would be a lot better if I did.
I don't see how.
Looney4Clooney
the names of notes are not really going to do much. Like learning the alphabet. Takes a little more to spell cookie.
itsamemario
Oh, I know cookies! But it's a bit easier to write down my prize winning cookie recipes if you know how to read and write, no?
Looney4Clooney
ya
but learning notes is like learning letters. Now consider how much time it took you to learn to write. And also consider you learn really really really fast when you are a kid. I think you just meant learning the sort of theory chops i gots. I think it is worth it. I also thought practicing a chromatic scale for 3 years so that i could play flight of the bumble bee so fast that girls would orgasm looking at my fingers. bees turn girls on.
but jazz is hard. It is an extension of classical tonal theory. So you kinda should learn that first which is a lot of stuff. Granted some people don't but whatever.
itsamemario
jazz is hard but the blues is simple. in the best possible sense of the word.
Looney4Clooney
blues is pretty much the general framework of jazz. You can listen to some really weird sounding and chances are they are using a standard 12 bar blues.
Astralist
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Now consider how much time it took you to learn to write. And also consider you learn really really really fast when you are a kid.
The first part is right, not the second.
We don't learn any faster as children, we're just immersed in the material we're being taught for long hours every day of the week. Consider that it takes a child learning their native language generally 8 or 9 years before they're able to have a self reflective, meaningful, or articulate conversation.
Music is the same way, you have to put in the hours if you want to become articulate.
There's such a thing as adult plasticity if you just have enough time to spend on something which is where we get our 50,000 hour rule.
2wice
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Originally posted by Astralist
The first part is right, not the second.
We don't learn any faster as children
where we get our 50,000 hour rule.
That works out to 34 years at 4 hrs, every day.
I think you might be referring to Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell.
The 10 000 hrs has been debunked anyway, because there are no proofs or tests and he sucked it out his thumb.
The developing mind of a child is very much geared to learning languages faster, it has physiological differences to an adult brain to enable this.
If this makes it true for music as a language, I do not know, but it makes sense.
If it is going to take me 10 000 hrs, then I'm ed, and should not even try. :P
