When he opened up with Smoke Machine (James Talk Remix) :eyes:
WTF?! Was it really 2008?!
Guest
Jaguar :eyespop: Good memories... <3
ItalianPoiSon
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Originally posted by kotsy
How about Ink's Sound Academy take over?
Thats extremly interesting to say the least...
dj_souvlaki
wow its been a while. the club idea was a "cool" concept. However it did nothing for the EDM scene other than bring in people who thought they knew what electronic music was. The place was just too damn big for Toronto to ever fill and make some sort of profit. Not to mention lack of investors and investors pulling their money out.
Too big for a city like ours, especially because 80% of the people who go to a club in this city go for either top 40 or hip hop. Yes the staff (including the bouncers) were very friendly, good sound, lots of bars but stupid lay out that was difficult to find your way around.
and seeing as the last club that was there failed and same with playdium, it would seem like a bad place to try and reopen another club.
kotsy
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Originally posted by dj_souvlaki
Too big for a city like ours
I wouldn't say that. It wasn't any bigger than Guv.
geroin
Article fails to mention that circa turned guv into a commercial cheesy venue because of the competition to stay on top. Although guv did win "the battle", the aftermath ruined both clubs imo. The drink on the second floor which was legendary was completely destroyed with the hiphop switch, so was skybar and gallery. Only thing that was left was main room which went from legendary parties to cheesy pop electro beats forcing all their previous clientele to abandon the venue and seek good music somewhere else.
LightsOut
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Originally posted by geroin
Bingo.
Mach X
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Originally posted by geroin
Article fails to mention that circa turned guv into a commercial cheesy venue because of the competition to stay on top. Although guv did win "the battle", the aftermath ruined both clubs imo. The drink on the second floor which was legendary was completely destroyed with the hiphop switch, so was skybar and gallery. Only thing that was left was main room which went from legendary parties to cheesy pop electro beats forcing all their previous clientele to abandon the venue and seek good music somewhere else.
GGM
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Originally posted by dj_souvlaki
Well it depends whether you believe them or not but many people in the know claim that the club was actually quite profitable. It just couldn't pay off debt fast enough and with interest rates that make credit cards look like mortgages it just wasn't possible.
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Originally posted by geroin
Good points... Never really thought about it but if you make a timeline for the decline of guv alongside the existence of circa they match pretty perfectly.
CMR
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Originally posted by dj_souvlaki The place was just too damn big for Toronto to ever fill and make some sort of profit.
But lack of attendance was never a problem.
As described at length in the article, most of the financial problems involved the exorbitant rent, the AGCO, loans, competing interests. The club was always full. (And as mentioned, it was smaller than Guv, and no larger than Sound Academy).
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Originally posted by geroin
Article fails to mention that circa turned guv into a commercial cheesy venue because of the competition to stay on top. Although guv did win "the battle", the aftermath ruined both clubs imo. The drink on the second floor which was legendary was completely destroyed with the hiphop switch, so was skybar and gallery. Only thing that was left was main room which went from legendary parties to cheesy pop electro beats forcing all their previous clientele to abandon the venue and seek good music somewhere else.
I think its far more plausible that Guv's decline had to do with changing trends in music than it did with Circa.
MrCanada
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Originally posted by CMR
I think its far more plausible that Guv's decline had to do with changing trends in music than it did with Circa.
I agree, Guvernment did change the whole music set up of their venue, & lost a huge chunk of the audience. I noticed that many of the djs that started working at their were urban djs that around that time changed into a more open multiformat style(maybe Canadian Djs were influenced by bigger, & more well paid djs in Toronto doing that multiformat style?).
kotsy
Just watched a fantastic documentary on Peter Gatien and his history of clubs in NYC. Here's the trailer! Highly recommended!
