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Will we ever run out of chord progressions (pg. 2)
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| Evolve140 |
| Just because everything has been done doesn't mean everyone has heard everything that has been done. A great melody that no one has ever heard can be very powerful. And given texture, chord progression and counterpoint if all melody has been used already, the context gives it value. That's why music is and will always be amazing, and melody will still be something we can appreciate. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
trust me, it has all been done. Pretty sure you can find about 60% of all modern pop melodies in Dvorack;s requiem alone. The only thing changing is aesthetic which makes it seem different. There are no new chords, no new progressions. There is a reason people abandoned tonality in the late 19th century. Granted jazz still had something new to offer but even that has been exhausted.
music is becoming more and more like micro djing. picking the right parts that have already been done into something that sounds a bit different. But all the building blocks are old. Especially melody and harmony. |
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| wayfinder |
i must say, i'm perfectly okay with that.
we'll get new stuff soon enough, when our senses are augmented. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| music is new. Certain aspects are not. Among them melody and chords. That isn't were things are progressing. |
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| Dawnchaser |
| Popular music in general would all sound less similar if people would stop hijacking Pachelbel. |
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| Rodri Santos |
when i bought my piano my mother in her ignorancy asked something similar to the guy that adjusted the pitchs.
She asked what was the difference between a keyboard and a piano and she thought that i would bore because sooner or later i would run out of new things as it seemed not that much combination (C2 and C5 sound completely different tho)
He answered that you can play the same sequence with different velocities,speed,pressure,arpeggios,triplet... well that every 3 note sequences has hundreds of variations (which i find true) so the sequence C,D,E can sound widely different depending on how you play it, not to mention that in edm or pop you can use different instruments, delay etc... |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| And all you are changing is aesthetic. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
And all you are changing is aesthetic. |
yes but that doesn't mean music can't still be interesting :D somehow i feel there are rare chords that have been used so rarely that i could consider they are new. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
they are rare because they require a certain musical foundation to make sense of what most would just consider noise. Jazz exhausted those by 1960.
People are not going to broaden their tastes and you are stuck with a certain limited palette if you want to be accessible.
People that make government subsidized "concert" music, these are people that make what they call "serious music" ie no concern for commercial appeal don't do anything new harmonically or with melody. What they make sounds like noise to most but it is also the same sort of serialism dissonance that was getting old in 1950. But now they use max msp and have mathematical equations that govern were the sound comes form.
So ya, if the people that are defined by being complicated and cutting edge are doing absolutely nothing novel , well ....
But you could still spend a lifetime learning what has already been done so I don't really see it as a bad thing. Just a reality. The only thing new in music is production. That is the only thing changing for the moment. |
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| Rodri Santos |
yes i agree. It's not casual than most of the tracks are CM or Am it's the most intuitive and definitely what sounds best since they haven't got any alterations.
Certainly there is little incentive to try something new, Bbm could be an interesting start point to try something unique, with some variations of it's major relative.. well something groundbreaking. The problem is that if you succed probably people won't value what you have done and say "this sounds ing sad i want the 3 note david guetta melodies" |
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| Looney4Clooney |
lol
that won't sound any different unless you are part of 0.01 % of the population with perfect pitch. Pressing transpose doesn't really add musical value. |
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| wayfinder |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
definitely what sounds best |
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