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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Your argument seems mired in pedantry that ignores the attributes of poetic license and overlooks the larger point he was trying to make about how the ordeal of actually graduating from college diminishes the value of the education one is supposed to receive. |
I'm sorry but the guy could have been poetic without distorting facts. He wasn't being poetic when he was talking about statistics. Nobody denies he had a special message in his ty video, but he could have gone about doing it without being an ignorant ass.
You don't need school to be succesfull in life, was something I realized in Elementary school. |
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| Mattsanity. |
| that homie was straight buggin. |
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| AnotherWay83 |
the delivery sucked but his overall point wasn't far off the mark. i'm not against universities as such, i think they do a decent job preparing people for the work force, but that's just what most of them do - job prep.
l4c pointed out that a good education should include thorough training in reasoning and arguing because these skills are absolutely critical towards building up an understanding of the way the world and people really work. i believe way back in the day that's what the elites considered a real "education" to be. the stuff we interpret it as today was back then kinda like goin to trade school.
i didn't come to appreciate the value of philosophy and the critical thinking skills a good grounding in it helps you build until well after i had gotten out of school, unfortunately.
i also love when i have the last post in a thread. it makes me feel all special, as if i've finally given a definitive argument for my position and settled a debate.
prove me wrong, COR, prove me wrong. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
the delivery sucked but his overall point wasn't far off the mark. i'm not against universities as such, i think they do a decent job preparing people for the work force, but that's just what most of them do - job prep.
l4c pointed out that a good education should include thorough training in reasoning and arguing because these skills are absolutely critical towards building up an understanding of the way the world and people really work. i believe way back in the day that's what the elites considered a real "education" to be. the stuff we interpret it as today was back then kinda like goin to trade school.
i didn't come to appreciate the value of philosophy and the critical thinking skills a good grounding in it helps you build until well after i had gotten out of school, unfortunately.
i also love when i have the last post in a thread. it makes me feel all special, as if i've finally given a definitive argument for my position and settled a debate.
prove me wrong, COR, prove me wrong. |
Ultimately, critical thinking is a mindset each person has to acquire on their own. If you go into University with the ability to do critial thinknig, then chances are you will get more out of your education. Your reasons for going to school play an important role as well. Someone who is going to school with money signs in their eyes, is more likely to complain and not fully appreciate the expereince. Too many people are only going because they feel like they don't have a choice, for example, the guy in the video. If the only reason you're going to school is because your parents told you, then stay home. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
the delivery sucked but his overall point wasn't far off the mark. i'm not against universities as such, i think they do a decent job preparing people for the work force, but that's just what most of them do - job prep.
l4c pointed out that a good education should include thorough training in reasoning and arguing |
that isn't what i pointed out. |
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| OrangestO |
I think my university experience and the things I learned has done much more for me as an adult who has had some life experiences under his belt, as opposed to what I would have gained as a kid straight out of high school. It's hard to grasp and connect the dots professors are teaching about the world when you've barely stepped a foot in it.
For that, I'm grateful I wasn't financially or personally ready to tackle a thing like college when I was 18. It turned out to be the best thing that could have happened to me. |
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| AnotherWay83 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
You shouldn't be able to get an undergraduate degree without studying the basics in literature , philosophy .....
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| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
that isn't what i pointed out.
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when you study literature and philosophy you do end up with a good grounding in reasoning, critical thinking, arguing. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
But you miss the whole point regarding knowledge that doesn't have an immediate pay off and how that sort of learning is being offset by courses that are more practical at the detriment of more rounded and in my opinion better education. You can't learn much in 4 years and it seems so naive to think that taking a field specific program will get you a job in that field. You graduate knowing the basics. At least in what your credit load will indicate. Real learning is something that happens your entire life also during university were you compliment the basic courses which are really just teasers. It is like a platter of information that opens you up to fields you might not have been exposed to had you not gone.
I've always found that i loved learning but i hated school. But i get it and i understand that it isn't ideal but it could be alot worse. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
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| Mattsanity. |
| Although Jesus didn't have formal education, I have no doubt he would stay in school in today's climate. He's the perfect role model to look up to. |
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| EddieZilker |
| Pretty sure Jesus would score a 2400 on his GRE. |
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