I learned over the time that electronic music is, in first place, a dance music and every dance music needs energy and a clean, on da face hot sound tone.
During my researches and talking with some friends, I've realized that modern e-music has some different approaches when it comes do dynamics/compression and equalization. Dynamics are really low in every individual channel and eq is not that cutted with filters anymore! People are letting the bass drives in very low frequencies, synths doesn't have low or high filter cuts anymore...
Well, the extensive use of sidechain nowadays help this, but doesn't seems to be the only key for success.
So, got thinking how I'll make my sounds good without have frequency masking and phase problems that looses the overall "shake that bitch" on the songs!
I've discovered somethings really good, they are the BBE plugins! Sonic Maximizer and Stomp does wonders on the basses or other low content such as percussion, also they add clarity to my leads. The harmonic maximizer adds really interesting clear harmonics to the lead, and let it breaths alone without much layering and other processing.
Well guys, just sharing my new researches.
These last months I'm mostly producing house/electro. This style has much less elements and they need to be very well processed to sound good.
Nowadays I'm listening to trance that has less elements, but very well sequenced, I don't like to listen anymore to that exaggerated in tracks trance that sounds blurry...
Another discovery was the Mathew Lane DrMS plugin, that helps mono-compatibility, easily preserving the integrity even for that sounds that has lot of phasing issues.
That's all
Deillon
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Originally posted by cristianokeller
I learned over the time that electronic music is, in first place, a dance music
Stopped reading after this.
Evolve140
Don't forget the Fausage Sattener! Always use this, great for adding hot on da face tonez to my dance leads and huge basses.
Looney4Clooney
i would say the opposite is true. If anything, people are cutting too much. Eqing too much and and well applying buss compression without reason. THe more tools that become available, the more people will use them in horrible ways.
clay
theres more to get out of distortion-boxes rather than eqs and filters, compressors etc imo.
Evolve140
In your overall sound design and processing, you should be able to obtain that sound without using "Fix-All" plugins like the ones you mentioned. You are basically just letting the plugin "fix" your processing so you don't have to do the labor by hand. Also, if you have to use a plugin to fix phasing issues because it happens so often to you, that is also a production fault on your own behalf and says more about your skills as a producer than anything else. Phase correction software? Maximizers? Harmonic exciters? Proper production and sound design in the first place would easily make these things obsolete to producers. Anyway, have fun using mastering tools in your mixdown. Sorry, I know you mean well, but your advise is terrible.
Richard Butler
How I can get advices for make a stomping dance?
SherlockCrash
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
How I can get advices for make a stomping dance?
cristianokeller
First: Sad to know guys that you can't assimilate what I'm trying to say. When I said dance, I meant EDM, Electronic Dance Music, that is what define the commercial music production in this area. Even the possible inventors of electronic music (Kraftwerk), danced like robots.
Second: I'm sorry if my english is not that good to explain exactly what I meant or the experts here want to hear. My official language is portuguese and I'm pretty sure that all of you here that criticize don't know any word or how to construct the most simple phrase in my language. ;)
Third: I've started this thread for a good conversation in mind. About how to obtain clarity and richness of single tones instead of add layers. Used with caution the plugin that I've mentioned can add clarity and punch, correct phase artifacts, etc.
Feel free to ignore the experts that criticized here so much and post some of your tips in how to achieve clarity and punch,.
I'd like to mention that Shaack Audio Transient Shaper is another good tool that only EQ and Compression can't archive.
MSZ
Mid/side compression can help polish that round fatness.
Looney4Clooney
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Originally posted by cristianokeller
I'd like to mention that Shaack Audio Transient Shaper is another good tool that only EQ and Compression can't archive.
a transient shaper , if you looked at the code is similar to a compressor if not the same in terms of overall structure. They are very fast volume adjustments. They all have their place.
I'm still having trouble understanding your intention. Perhaps some examples ?
Evolve140
EXAMPLE:
I take off the effects chain (for the bassline) one by one at 1:27, and then I re-add them... about 6 things. Tried to record me doing it but it's all ed up. But either way, just listen and you get the idea. in practice, avoiding everything you advised to do. So sorry I don't "understand" what you mean. Maybe I just don't get it.
"In the box" doesn't mean you are super expert at production and mastering just because you think a few plugins are hot. And don't take offense because we criticize your advice; YOU automatically assumed you were doing us a favor. Please, spare me. There are better ways to feel better about yourself in this world. Take a breath, step away from your DAW, and try again.
Sorry, but as The Lord says, don't be such a ing noob.
