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banning license plate acronyms where is 1st amendment? (pg. 2)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| americans get upset over the stupidest things. |
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| billymadision |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
americans get upset over the stupidest things. |
Exactly the point. First amendment still protects bumper stickers. |
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| kamil |
| Well at least Americans have their precious guns to keep them cuddled in bed. |
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| idoru |
I don't really give a about this issue either way, because it's just a license plate and they're just some acronyms (you've never been able to have " YOU" or "EAT " on a plate, so why are you only now making this a first amendment issue?), but...
| quote: | Originally posted by billymadision
IS this useful tax dollar spending... |
... seriously? You really think that this is some egregious waste of tax money? The amount spent on banning these words is paltry compared to what some minimum wage kid at McDonald's makes in a day. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
... seriously? You really think that this is some egregious waste of tax money? The amount spent on banning these words is paltry compared to what some minimum wage kid at McDonald's makes in a day. |
There it is! |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by billymadision
Oh and is banning USB on the license plate really useful to anything, anywhere? |
I'd also like to know how you're under the impression that "USB" is banned, because that article never mentioned it. Or, are you just retarded? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Not sure how the First amendment applies to someone restricting your ability to express your self on someone else's property. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Not sure how the First amendment applies to someone restricting your ability to express your self on someone else's property. |
I believe it is silly to use the constitution as a defense in pretty much all things that a state does and does not do. Instead, it should be a debate on how moral the thing is and test the logic of it.
Personally, I believe it is immoral to put someone under duress to do something that you want them to do that they would have voluntarily chosen not to do. In this case, people are under duress to stick a license plate on their car if they want to drive. Now, like argued above, people are going to say that it is necessary to force people to do it in order to catch "criminals." Ok, fine. But do you believe it is ok for anyone to approach a peaceful person and use force or violence to get them to do something that you want them to do that they otherwise would not? Personally, I don't believe it is. So logically, I can't agree with forcing people to put a license plate on their car because I don't believe anyone has a right to do that. And it is completely illogical to say that a state does; because by what right do they have to do it? People often answer that the citizens give them that power. The problem with that is that it is illogical to say that someone can give a right that they do not have to someone else. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
You were (presumably) entitled to a public education, though. Your transportation to and fro ensured by paved roads paid by public taxes, as is the interest of the public to further monitor and tax presumably legally-obtained vehicles that are kept to inspection of emissions in the interest of further public health.
Even Libertarianism-Lite falls apart when the entitlements of those privileged enough with the luxury of contemplating them in the first place have already expended them. |
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| citric_acid |
| Montana almost didnt let me have my plates, they arnt even inappropriate :/ even though ive had it for 10.5 years now |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You were (presumably) entitled to a public education, though. Your transportation to and fro ensured by paved roads paid by public taxes, as is the interest of the public to further monitor and tax presumably legally-obtained vehicles that are kept to inspection of emissions in the interest of further public health.
Even Libertarianism-Lite falls apart when the entitlements of those privileged enough with the luxury of contemplating them in the first place have already expended them. |
Yes but I even put public roads, public education, and all other public services through the same logical test that I've put the public license plate through. The outcome is still the same. Let's forget about Libertarianism or any other political stamp though because I don't believe it matters in this discussion; not to mention I don't even associate myself with one. :) |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Well nobody coerces you under threat of duress to append a license plate to your vehicle. You can just keep it in your garage and never, ever use the vehicle if the integrity of your property is of such concern. |
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