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Producers that sample old songs...
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| Microlab |
| Do they do that on a legal basis? How much does it apprx. cost to sample an old song? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
generally no. IF something is obvious, they usually just give the track away for free and never take official credit for it.
How much ? I think they would just refuse in most cases. If you were a big act, for an unknown song, they will charge you a flat rate in the thousands and want points on the back end. If the writer is still alive, and doesn't like EDM , forget it. |
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| aquila |
Back in the 80s and 90s sample copyright was rather unknown and lawsuits were thrown about all the time. One of the most amusing lawsuits I've read about was with a track on The Prodigy's album, The Fat Of The Land:
| quote: | | "Climbatize" samples a horn riff from "The Horn Track" by Egyptian Empire, the stage name of electronic musician Tim Taylor. The main drum loop was sampled from "Air Drums from Outer Bongolia" by English electronic duo The Jedi Knights; Liam Howlett sampled the drums without the group's permission, and The Jedi Knights threatened to sue The Prodigy. However, Howlett already knew that The Jedi Knights themselves had sampled the drums from an older track entitled "Bongolia" by American funk group Incredible Bongo Band without permission; XL Recordings, the Prodigy's record label, bought the rights to the Incredible Bongo Band track and threatened to sue The Jedi Knights. The media coverage cornered around the event attracted film producer George Lucas, who sued The Jedi Knights for taking their stage name from the Star Wars term "Jedi Knight", which Lucas created. |
(from Wikipedia).
Nowadays sampling permissions and usage rights are a bit more manageable between labels, managers and artists. A lot of underground artists who seldom earn some sort of profit don't bother with the legalities though, and generally go unnoticed. |
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| Seandroid |
If it's the Amen Break I think you're pretty much OK.
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| DJRYAN™ |
| That's crazy Aquila.. Dog eat dog world.. that's for sure.. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by aquila
Back in the 80s and 90s sample copyright was rather unknown and lawsuits were thrown about all the time. One of the most amusing lawsuits I've read about was with a track on The Prodigy's album, The Fat Of The Land:
(from Wikipedia).
Nowadays sampling permissions and usage rights are a bit more manageable between labels, managers and artists. A lot of underground artists who seldom earn some sort of profit don't bother with the legalities though, and generally go unnoticed. |
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: talk about the quick buck turning around a biting you on the ass haha.. karrrrrma is delicious |
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| clay |
| liam howlett is perfect example of reuse, brilliant artist in that way, just beware to name all the references to your label and they should cover the legal crap. sampling/reuse is fun! just do it and be honest about it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Pretty much the opposite of what was just said.
Your label wont sign the track because that implies work and you selling units in the thousands.
Being honest about it is only worthwhile if you cant hide it and you are selling at least 10 000 copies. |
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