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From My Perspective: The Growth of The Dance Music Scene (pg. 3)
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| paulversuspaul |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
people were using the term EDM in 2000. IT was ubiquitous then among those that were tired of people calling it techno which was pretty much everyone that was in some way part of the scene. I would say americans have only ever liked house and dubstep and there was no reason for a term like EDM. |
that is correct. I heard the term being used about 10 years ago. And that is precisely the reason why, people either called it techno or those semi knowledgable thought they were being smart by calling it house or trance regardless of the genre. |
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| corjay9 |
| All I know is, now people here in Montreal actually know the difference between house and techno. I don't hear techno being thrown around like it used to. |
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| Zombie0915 |
Basically two large conglomerates own the (north american)festival scene already. The local promoters operate as quasi-independent organizations under one or another of their umbrellas, LiveNation is actually Ticketmaster, SFX has the other half of the industry more or less. If I was a betting man I'd say the Livenation/ID-T/Beatport megacorp will swallow even more of it in the coming years, and prices will indeed rise. I'd wager the places you party in at Atlanta are under one of these mega umbrellas already, especially if they are the sort of places that are getting the international headliners.
I can't say this is an altogether negative development. Being seen as a legitimate style of music and not just an excuse to do drugs would be a positive change that megacorps can provide. But others have lamented about this too, the popularity seeks to divorce the music from the culture that bred it. People will know popular electro house without knowing kandi and hugs and phat pants and glowstrings and fuzzy leg warmers and the temporary autonomous zone. Maybe that is a good thing too, who knows. EDM has long been sucked into velvet ropes valets and VIP table service and giant price exclusive superclubs, aside from the festivals of course. I've made that 6 hour drive to ATL more than a few times.
I think our hope is in the smaller indie bars and clubs with the local artists playing. The megacorps will take the stigma out of dance music and make people realize that going to those places doesn't make you a sinner drug addict overdosing rape victim, hopefully. But that indie stuff is pretty much gone now, unless you specify indie in your event and music seeking, and then doing that would suck you into the hipster blogs and , and some would argue that the stuff there is just as corrupted and fabricated for commercial gain as the commercial dance world has become. Inevitably, if you want a crowd of significant size in this era (in north america), you pretty much have to welcome your new ticketmaster overlords (except for perhaps a few remaining historical festivals like starscape and such). |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJRYAN™
(USE PROMO CODE: RYAN) |
How has nobody else noticed this? |
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| enydo |
| oh that is just FOR ME |
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| Woony |
| So, you're excited for GABRIEL & DAVE DRESDEN next month? |
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| Chimney |
| You can trash talk Ryan as much as you want, only Existo had a better profile picture than him though. :stongue: |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
So, you're excited for GABRIEL & DAVE DRESDEN next month? |
:haha: |
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| Light The Fuse |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
your point seems to forget the fact that the so called groove USA is destroying was an american invention. EDM owes more to american culture than people ever seem to want to give. America has always understood dance music. It just has never been a mass movement. Even popular disco was good disco white washed just like rock music before. Without America, you get electronic music ala stockhausen. It is only because of america your dance music is danceable.
I guess I think you should be somewhat sensitive to the history and as much as current douche bags ie OP representing 1 generation of americans, it has contributed more to every genre post romanticism than pretty much every country.
and that goes from the very technology to the core aesthetic of the music. With USA, you would be raging to music concrete based waltzes. |
yeah i know - maybe my sweeping statement was a little too sweeping. i guess im talking more about my perspective on the 'progressive house / American EDM' revolution of the last few years. and when i spoke of EDM COINing - yeah i mean the COIN(selling to the masses)ing.
obviously for example i would be including the innovators from detroit as an example.
sorry i next time i will include footnotes (which is hard after a few rums)
hope that clarifies. |
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| Mr Game+Watch |
| quote: | Originally posted by corjay9
All I know is, now people here in Montreal actually know the difference between house and techno. I don't hear techno being thrown around like it used to. |
The best thing about the term EDM is that the unwashed masses no longer just call everything with a 4x4 beat 'techno'. EDM is a great catch-all term and is at least accurate to describe house/techno/trance/electro/etc. |
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| pointPi |
I think the most worrisome about the EDM scene today, is that no one really gets successful for having substance in their music. No provocative lyrics, no complex compositions, just "exceptional beats".
Let's say we liken electronic music to paintings. If paintings were like edm today, we'd have all these mind-blowing brushing techniques, perspectives, shadow layerings and color compositions, yet all we'd ever paint was the same generic still life paintings over and over again.
All I'm saying is, you don't need to sacrifice style for the sake of substance. Same thing goes for the other way around. Supersaws and wobbles can be used for expressing big things about the human condition, it's just that no one's doing it.
/can-of-worms-opening-procedure |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Yes they do, you just don't know about them because you listen to an extremely narrow body of music. |
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