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Computer Graphic Design Help - aka I am going crazy
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| StereoPrincess |
I need someone's help to direct me to a website that will teach me once and for all how to make proper figures on a computer.
Goddammmiit.
I am trying to make graphs and when I switch between programs the figures lose resolution and ing look like e.
For example, I prepare simple line graphs in powerpoint and they look fabulous. I then have to copy the graph into Illustrator because I have to adjust something in the graph and the ing thing looks like e in illustrator. I make something in Illustrator and it ends up looking like ing crap when I transfer it to powerpoint or word or wherever i need to use it. i just don't understand what the i am doing wrong and need godamn help and fast. |
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| Pantone199c |
I could definitely help you but I'm confused by your wording. Can you post a pic of what is going on?
Screenshots would be best in both illustrator and powerpoint. I think I may know what's going on but I want to help you as fast as possible as it sounds like you are under stress haha. |
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| StereoPrincess |
Oh look I am a nice perfect image in Powerpoint. Crisp lines. Perfect numbers.
But wait, Margaret needs to change the sizes of the points and can't do them nicely in powerpoint so we need to switch over to Illustrator.
The image looks like I vomitted on it.
The reason my wording doesn't make sense is because I have no training in this and therefore I can't even google solutions because I obviously do not know the phrasing. |
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| Mach X |
| There should be no reason why you can't edit it properly in Excel, then paste into Power Point. When you paste into Power Point, right click and you have different paste options, you can paste as image which is static and won't change after you make changes in Excel but it won't resize well. Or you can paste as source or destination formating, this will be the most crisp and easily updateable method. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mach X
There should be no reason why you can't edit it properly in Excel, then paste into Power Point. When you paste into Power Point, right click and you have different paste options, you can paste as image which is static and won't change after you make changes in Excel but it won't resize well. Or you can paste as source or destination formating, this will be the most crisp and easily updateable method. |
the graphs are made in a totally different graphing program because excel doesn't do fancy science stuff.
but the graphs from this program are always pimp looking, it's after i transfer them between programs they get ty.
For other graphics people,
If I start in illustrator, the numbers looks nice and crisp.
Then import to Powerpoint and again.
KKKKK.
What is the best file format that preserves the resolution properly? I have tried many combinations. |
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| Pantone199c |
Ok, so basically what is going on is that the powerpoint image is a pixel image while Illustrator creates a vector.
The way I try to explain it is: When you download an image off the internet, do you notice how when you try to stretch it to make it bigger it makes it ugly? Well the issue is that the image has a certain amount of pixels that make up an image. Each pixel is a square of color. So when you stretch it out the the color square gets bigger and the image gets uglier.
Vectors are points, lines, curves and polygons on an algebraic grid. These points, lines, curves, and basic polygons are called “primitives,” and are the basic building blocks of vector art. (honestly that doesn't really mean so...)
I try to help others by visualizing. Ok so with an image if I take a polaroid and imagine that I stretch it out to the size of a building it will look like because the image has only lets say 300 pixels. So the color squares will be huge and you won't really be able to see anything it'll look like this:
The left side is the original and the right side is what it would look like blown up.
With vectors you don't run into this problem. A vector will always keep its nice clean sleek look because its not pixels its basically a mathematical equation in visual representation. So if I wanted to stretch a black line that is only 1 inch long to the the size of the empire state building, It'll still look exactly the same either way.
Your best bet would be to use the image you have and use it as a guide in Illustrator and then trace everything over in illustrator then make the necessary adjustments.
If anything I could probably bang this out in a few minutes if you are in a melt down crisis. Let me know if you need any help. |
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| Mach X |
| Are you using PNG and vectors? |
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| Pantone199c |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
the graphs are made in a totally different graphing program because excel doesn't do fancy science stuff.
but the graphs from this program are always pimp looking, it's after i transfer them between programs they get ty.
For other graphics people,
If I start in illustrator, the numbers looks nice and crisp.
Then import to Powerpoint and again.
KKKKK.
What is the best file format that preserves the resolution properly? I have tried many combinations. |
Hold on I'm booting up illustrator to see what you need to do. |
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| Pantone199c |
Try this I've never really used powerpoint extensively but it seems like the two programs can be used interchangeably.
| quote: | To convert a PowerPoint slide into an .eps or other high resolution file type that can be placed into InDesign or Quark:
1. Save the PowerPoint slides as a PDF
2. Open the PDF in Adobe Illustrator
3. Resave the file as an .eps or .ai file.
You should be able to edit/modify the text and graphics that were created in PowerPoint. The text and graphics that were originally placed in PowerPoint as tiff or jpeg files will not have editable text. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pantone199c
Ok, so basically what is going on is that the powerpoint image is a pixel image while Illustrator creates a vector.
The way I try to explain it is: When you download an image off the internet, do you notice how when you try to stretch it to make it bigger it makes it ugly? Well the issue is that the image has a certain amount of pixels that make up an image. Each pixel is a square of color. So when you stretch it out the the color square gets bigger and the image gets uglier.
Vectors are points, lines, curves and polygons on an algebraic grid. These points, lines, curves, and basic polygons are called “primitives,” and are the basic building blocks of vector art. (honestly that doesn't really mean so...)
I try to help others by visualizing. Ok so with an image if I take a polaroid and imagine that I stretch it out to the size of a building it will look like because the image has only lets say 300 pixels. So the color squares will be huge and you won't really be able to see anything it'll look like this:
The left side is the original and the right side is what it would look like blown up.
With vectors you don't run into this problem. A vector will always keep its nice clean sleek look because its not pixels its basically a mathematical equation in visual representation. So if I wanted to stretch a black line that is only 1 inch long to the the size of the empire state building, It'll still look exactly the same either way.
Your best bet would be to use the image you have and use it as a guide in Illustrator and then trace everything over in illustrator then make the necessary adjustments.
If anything I could probably bang this out in a few minutes if you are in a melt down crisis. Let me know if you need any help. |
So I understand as far as pixels vs vector.
What I don't understand is that if I make something with enough pixels to look nice, was does it not convert to vector nicely. Or if I prepare something in vector, why does it not give me enough pixels to make it look good in powerpoint.
I can import vector drawings into powerpoint and they look like .
I would definitely have someone else do this if I didn't have a million to do in a row.
I tried the saving as PDF and the numbers looked good but the graph part looked like e.
This is the PDF.
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| Pantone199c |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
So I understand as far as pixels vs vector.
What I don't understand is that if I make something with enough pixels to look nice, was does it not convert to vector nicely. Or if I prepare something in vector, why does it not give me enough pixels to make it look good in powerpoint.
I can import vector drawings into powerpoint and they look like .
I would definitely have someone else do this if I didn't have a million to do in a row.
I tried the saving as PDF and the numbers looked good but the graph part looked like e.
This is the PDF.
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Where exactly did you create this graph anyway? |
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| geroin |
| If you need the graph to look great even at high resolution then you new to create the whole graph either in illustrator or in indesign as they are vector programs created specifically for this purpose. |
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