I think Markus Schulz really had a great quote here
"Today, there are two types of DJs. There are the guys that have produced a hit record and then now have to learn how to DJ in order to go on tour, and then there are the guys who grew up as a DJ and then started producing.I grew up as the latter.
I’ve been a DJ my whole life. I think it comes down to the art of DJing and there’s something very special when you are listening to somebody throw down an amazing set that understands the art of DJing. It’s important that the next generation of people coming into the scene understands the art of DJing."
Interested to hear everyone's thoughts
Sykonee
I don't think Schulz falls into either category, but rather a third one: someone who grew up DJing, and is now forced to create a hit to remain relevant.
There's also a fourth one: someone who grew up DJing, and doesn't give a rat's ass about producing.
jayxthekoolest
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Originally posted by Sykonee
There's also a fourth one: someone who grew up DJing, and doesn't give a rat's ass about producing.
YA BUT THOSE PEOPLE DON'T MATTER
Juan Paulino
Usually producing comes from really good djing. The ideas come from really great sets.
Titanium
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Originally posted by Sykonee
I don't think Schulz falls into either category, but rather a third one: someone who grew up DJing, and is now forced to create to remain relevant.
There's also a fourth one: someone who grew up DJing, and doesn't give a rat's ass about producing.
Fixed and not to mention play ty records on top of that and have a set bombarded with "Markus Schulz's Big Room Reconstruction Mix"
Sykonee
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EDM is, quite frankly, the antithesis of what electronic music has been historically.
Pft, EDM hasn't even touched what electronic music concerts were capable of back in the day:
Sykonee
Argh, double post.:whip:
Edit: Actually, after reading the article, what makes EDM so much different from any other era where electronic music has had commercial success? The article is incredibly myopic, suggesting dance music was only some grimey underground thing until just recently. We Gen-X'rs had our share of mainstream stuff too.
Woony
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Originally posted by Sykonee
Actually, thinking about it further, what makes EDM so much different from any other era where electronic music has had commercial success? The article is incredibly myopic, suggesting dance music was only some grimey underground thing until just recently. We Gen-X'rs had our share of mainstream stuff too.
Nothing. It's just that many Americans seem to have cultivated this ridiculous worldview where EDM is the first time electronic music has gotten mainstream, ever.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Sykonee
I don't think Schulz falls into either category, but rather a third one: someone who grew up DJing, and is now forced to create a hit to remain relevant.
Exactly. This article is essentially just a bunch of clowns like Cosmic Gate and Armin trying to present themselves as underground "real DJs" by creating a false opposition against the new wave of EDM acts. Reminds me of the whole "hardcore vs casual" discourse that sprung up in videogames about 5-6 years ago, where developers of shiny, simplistic games like Call Of Duty tried to present themselves as the serious player's option compared to the Nintendo Wii, to gloss over the utter dumbing-down and wasted potential of the modern videogame industry.
Markus Schulz knows perfectly well that his DJ sets are completely artistically compromised compared to the stuff he made his name spinning on the Edge Factor when he was learning his much-vaunted trade, and this whole argument is a smokescreen to try and disguise that obvious fact.
Kilixpree
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Markus Schulz knows perfectly well that his DJ sets are completely artistically compromised compared to the stuff he made his name spinning on the Edge Factor when he was learning his much-vaunted trade, and this whole argument is a smokescreen to try and disguise that obvious fact.
edgefactor :crazy: :crazy:
thetranceguy
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Exactly. This article is essentially just a bunch of clowns like Cosmic Gate and Armin trying to present themselves as underground "real DJs" by creating a false opposition against the new wave of EDM acts. Reminds me of the whole "hardcore vs casual" discourse that sprung up in videogames about 5-6 years ago, where developers of shiny, simplistic games like Call Of Duty tried to present themselves as the serious player's option compared to the Nintendo Wii, to gloss over the utter dumbing-down and wasted potential of the modern videogame industry.
Markus Schulz knows perfectly well that his DJ sets are completely artistically compromised compared to the stuff he made his name spinning on the Edge Factor when he was learning his much-vaunted trade, and this whole argument is a smokescreen to try and disguise that obvious fact.
I think that's a great analogy right there with the video games... Really good point. Everyone is trying to cling to some underground roots when in fact it's quite obvious that their sound has become commercialized.
I think the whole debate is kind of silly.
PivotTechno
That op piece is the biggest load of horse I've had the displeasure of (mostly) reading in a long while.
