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| cryophonik |
| So, Music Radar has been scouring newb threads on music production forums to bring us a list of the same free plugins that anybody with a pulse has already known about for the last 6 years? There you go kids - the way to make money in this business isn't by producing trance, it's by exploiting clueless advertisers with your 10th grade-level journalism skills. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
So, Music Radar has been scouring newb threads on music production forums to bring us a list of the same free plugins that anybody with a pulse has already known about for the last 6 years? There you go kids - the way to make money in this business isn't by producing trance, it's by exploiting clueless advertisers with your 10th grade-level journalism skills. |
Yup
Oh, and IBTL |
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| discobiscuit |
| Sick! I'm just getting into the production game (or trying at leaso this is very helpful to me. Thanks! |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
So, Music Radar has been scouring newb threads on music production forums to bring us a list of the same free plugins that anybody with a pulse has already known about for the last 6 years? There you go kids - the way to make money in this business isn't by producing trance, it's by exploiting clueless advertisers with your 10th grade-level journalism skills. |
If they catered the list to your specific target market (serious music producers with a millenium worth of production experience:tongue2) they will simultaneously neglect the largest segment of producers.
Even for someone like myself, who's been producing more than 10 years, I still do it merely as a hobby. Like most people who produce. So I found some value in that list.
Also, if you type in "best free plugins", they currently rank #1 for that phrase. Which returns 55 million results. They're even outranking all the sites for the best free wordpress plugins, which is a competitive market all by itself.
So that tells me, regardless of their journalism skills, their business model definitely works. They know exactly what google considers "relevant" for their market. They know what the larger % of the market demands. They are appealing to newbies, and you hate it, but thats life.
Most importantly, if you don't like it, noones stopping you from making your own list.. targeted to veteran music producers only.
You can even take it a step further, and pay someone to rank your page right above theirs.
The problem is, the minute you stop SEO, your rank will drop, and their page will NATURALLY outrank yours. Why? Because more newbies are sharing their list and bookmarking it, rather than yours, who only veterans see the value in.
So again, this is not a problem with their journalism skills. Its a conflict of interest that exists in every niche, every market, every successful business in the world. And if you're in this niche to make money, you either commercialize certain aspects of your business model, or go broke.
ps. I have no idea what you mean by "exploiting advertisers". Those advertisers PAY for the traffic that site delivers them. And if their traffic doesn't convert, guess what? They stop paying!
pss. Here is something most people never mention. Your advertisers will often do BETTER if your content isn't perfect. Because people will click on the page, they won't be that interested in the content, and will click over to the ads. I'm not saying put out content that sucks, but there is definitely a delicate balance you need to reach if your site is monetized mainly with ads. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| omg welcome back robby rox, i see you still write a load for even the simplest topics. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox blah blah blah...
Most importantly, if you don't like it, noones stopping you from making your own list.. targeted to veteran music producers only.
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If I was to post this list on most forums, the thread would get locked. Ask yourself why that is. If you can't figure it out for yourself, go look at the stickies on this forum. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Well, its definitely not spam thats 1 thing I know (if thats what you're talking about).
Also, you're not allowed to post requests for plugins, but you can definitely make a list or post a link to one. Just look at this thread. The rules say nothing about it. |
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| DJ RANN |
Robby! Welcome back mang!
But honestly, you should have picked a better topic to spuff your 1st returning load on.
I mean, search rankings, it's not a validation worth the server space it's stored on.
It just means someone in the company (or in India) is great at SEO. For instance, for my business, I found this guy who charges $100 a month and will put you at the top of the organic google rankings for 5 search terms. No red flag techniques, no breaches of best practice terms of service. He just used to work for google and knows how to bend it to his will. And I chose the the broadest terms on the most populous city in north america, and within a month I was up there. Who gives a if I drop if I stop using him. The bottom line is, for $100, I make that back in less than 30 mins in no small part to that page ranking.
Oh and some SEO techniques are far more permanent than you think, especially if the guy building it knows how to build cohesive link and bridge building for your business.
Anyway, I digress but Dave is right; we don't need it, anymore than we need banner ads on websites that no one ever clicks (I sure as hsit know in nearly 15 years of using t'interwebnet I've clicked on banner ads maybe twice, and those were mistakes.
reminds me of this:
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Hey man, hope all is well!
The only reason I'm arguing with Cryo is I honestly didn't see any problems with the list. But I'll leave it alone as he's obviously entitled to his opinion.
As far as SEO goes, is there anything that you DON'T know about? lol.
For the last year & half I've been learning how to rank sites in google, so I feel like I had to say something. I had no idea how profitable it actually is if you know how to monetize the sites well (I don't use ads I target local and sell the leads to small businesses).
Eventually I found a guy to outsource to, who charges the same that your guy does ($100/month) but he only targets 2 keywords. Completely safe and no slaps from big G. Which I'm sure you know is becoming a lot harder to avoid these days.
It took me a while to find him but SEO is AWESOME lol. I absolutely love it. I still make music but I waste a ton of time now working on new sites. Takes me a couple days to make a site, I outsource the SEO, and within 2-3 months they are generating leads. Then I give them to local businesses and collect 10% on sold jobs. Just rinse and repeat over and over. Marketing is the last thing I ever imagined myself doing, but once you learn it, you realize its one of the most valuable skills a person can have.
Anyway, glad to know that you are well versed in SEO. I've always wanted to rank a site in the music niche, but don't really see how it can be profitable. Aside from selling sample packs or something. Or maybe even selling file projects as tutorials to help new producers.
Either way, nice to see yah man.
I should be around more often & its nice to see all you guys still doing your thing.
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-Robby
ps. Did you find your guy on a well known marketing forum? I don't care about his name or anything just curious how you met him. |
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