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Mixing in a small bed room. (pg. 2)
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| chris marsh |
| Also get a good pair of headphones - priceless imo, especially in a room thats not really really accurate (like most of ours)! |
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| LoveHate |
| quote: | Originally posted by wayfinder
Move your computer table to the middle of the wall, at the window. |
took you're advice and all I have to say is wow, what a world of difference. |
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| vercetti |
The way I understand to hear full range speaker response in a small room is well doable, but a little on the expensive side. Still orders of magnitude cheaper than renting a massive place and then acoustic treating it.
1. Make the room semi-anechoic. 4 walls and ceiling should be covered in something like 30cm thick rockwool. Covering the floor is obviously impractical and next to impossible. That should absorb nearly all reflections, all the frequency spectrum. With this treatment what you hear is the sound coming out of your speakers, not reflections of reflections and standing waves with their 30db peaks and nulls.
2. Put full range speakers in it.
3. Your brain will ing hate it. You will feel very uneasy and want to get out of there. To solve this you should trick the brain into thinking you're in "normal" space with "normal" reflections. Buy a cheap 5.1 computer speaker system ($50 or less) and set up some old computer ($50 for win98 500mhz) to continuously play some surround or quadrophonic record of [whatever] at low volume (or a impulse response of some mega studio control room with some algo reverb on top) think you're in a forest or a city or something and everything's going alright. Does not feel you're in the middle of The Shining any more.
Cool, now you can hear full frequency range *as it is* coming from your large monitors in an acoustically perfect room of infinite dimensions and you don't feel like in a middle of horror film. So a small room treated this way is as good as $1mil control rooms in terms of acoustics.
My thoughts could be dead wrong, but at least Ethan Winer agrees (no surprises here, he's acoustic treatment salesman but still makes sense to me) |
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| clay |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
took you're advice and all I have to say is wow, what a world of difference. |
now, put the speakers on higher stands on the floor making a wider stereo directly into your ears - also at a distans from wall. you dont need HS80, all your problems will increase if you do. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
took you're advice and all I have to say is wow, what a world of difference. |
Now take this advice, it worked wonders.
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
i have a couple of suggestions:
- lower all your channels by 15-20dB.
- delete all compression and eqs (on every ing instrument as well as master).
- raise the volume on your monitors alot (keeps your from pushing your tracks).
- start mixing over again (fine tune for weeks for best result).
behold a ing awesome sounding dynamic track compared to the compressed we have today. yes it will be low and doesnt work on mp3/ipad/tv but me it sounds good on a big stereo. dynamics bro, that is awesome. |
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| DJ RANN |
There's some decent pointers in here but me, there's also a lot of really bad advice advice in this thread.
Although I have serious man-love for the HS80s, they will cause headaches in small rooms and trying to treat can just be a waste of time and money.
1, Buy some JBL LSR2325p's - they are 6" drivers that behave like 8" speakers and are super forgiving in untreated and boxy rooms. they have great detail and for some reason (obviously related to dark magic) do not boom at all in small, awkward or badly designed spaces. I promise you, the difference between these and your KRK's will absolutely astound you.
2, Decouple speakers from your desk. Either build stands from plumbers parts and hardwood (I may upload pics of the ones I made if I can be bothered) or get recoil stabilizers.
3, Arrange your setup and listening position correctly; Avoid desk splash and early reflections, pull the speakers away from a wall and make sure your heights are correct.
just be doing these three things you'll see a massive difference in monitoring quality.
Good luck!! |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
......Buy some JBL LSR2325p's - they are 6" drivers that behave like 8" speakers ....... |
Is this a 6" or just 5" driver??? - or maybe a 2328p is not to big for room room 13x12x9 feet??
Thanks RANN,
Darek |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
Is this a 6" or just 5" driver??? - or maybe a 2328p is not to big for room room 13x12x9 feet??
Thanks RANN,
Darek |
It's meant to be a 5" but if I remember right, I measured mine at was only just shy of 6".
But really, there's no need for bigger monitors in that room. The 2325p's punch so much higher than their weight grade, size and price.
13x12x9 isn't actually tiny per say, but it is a little on the small side and without treatment anything bigger in terms of monitors are going to be a real pain to get proper bass representation on. |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
It's meant to be a 5" but if I remember right, I measured mine at was only just shy of 6".
But really, there's no need for bigger monitors in that room. The 2325p's punch so much higher than their weight grade, size and price.
13x12x9 isn't actually tiny per say, but it is a little on the small side and without treatment anything bigger in terms of monitors are going to be a real pain to get proper bass representation on. |
Thank man, will look into this LSR2325p speakers - also I'm working on room treatment at the same time using those panels:
http://sonichomework.com/shop/sqft-...nels-p-167.html
and corners bass trap:
http://sonichomework.com/shop/corne...-traps-p-2.html
That should help a bit ;)
Thanks RANN again.
Darek |
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| tehlord |
A man builds his own, for about 10% of the price ;) |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
A man builds his own, for about 10% of the price ;) |
Lol man, I set myself up for this :D now you can see what kind of man I'm :stongue:
Too much overtime at my work so when coming back home I just want some peace in my studio - "only me and my music" ;)
Darek |
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