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Is this 12" flawed, or not?
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| PivotTechno |
I need opinions as to whether or not this new 12" of Rrose's "Merchant of Salt" contains audible pressing flaws - samples alternate between normal e.q.ing and midrange boost to isolate the background noise. Chemical Records, from where I ordered it, says the same flaws are present on every copy they have, while Seth (Rrose) denies hearing anything untoward, excepting the run-out on "Shepherd's Brine".
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| Rodri Santos |
| i hear clear vinyl crisps at points if you say it's new shouldn't be present yet. It's noticeable on the first seconds mostly. |
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| blackplasma |
| I didn't really listen to the full sample because I don't understand what exactly you're getting at, but the distinct crackle I can hear 2/3 of the way through your sample is repeating at exactly 45 rpm, so must be a vinyl defect. Can't you just look at the surface of the record and spot it? |
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| PivotTechno |
| Yeah, it's visibly noticeable, I'm just looking for corroboration. I've been pressing Rrose/Eaux for a clean copy of this record, and so far what I've received is denial that there's an issue, along with an offer of a free digital download, neither of which are satisfactory responses. If it keeps heading in this direction, I will soon be hitting up several prominent electronic music message boards, actively dissuading others from buying it. Levon Vincent was man enough to make a public apology on Discogs when flawed copies of "Stereo Systems" were released, and encouraged buyers to return those copies to the retailers. I'd expect the same from any producer who has a modicum of concern about the quality of their physical product. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| at 2:15 is even annoying... |
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| Woony |
| I hear people complain about pressing quality all the time these days. It's just what happens when vinyl is no longer an actual necessity and instead nothing more than glorified credibility stamp for producers' and DJ's resumé. |
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| Chimney |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
Yeah, it's visibly noticeable, I'm just looking for corroboration. I've been pressing Rrose/Eaux for a clean copy of this record |
Think Rrose is the only person who runs Eaux. I doubt he cares, unfortunately. |
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| rubez |
| vinyl crackle takes me back. embrace that while you still can!! |
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| paulversuspaul |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
I hear people complain about pressing quality all the time these days. It's just what happens when vinyl is no longer an actual necessity and instead nothing more than glorified credibility stamp for producers' and DJ's resumé. |
This!!!! I actually really like both Rrose and Levon Vincent, especially Vincent, but I refuse to buy his songs on the stupidity of the whole hipster movement of making your work seem serious by only releasing it on ty low quality vinyl. I dont think people realize just how hard it is to make high quality vinyl. Any jackass can press it but the reason a lot of 90s records still hold their quality 20 years later is that the were pressed by people who actually knew what they were doing and the fact that it was the only way to actually release the song.
Oh almost forgot, Pivot that is classic bad vinyl sound. you can hear similar stuff if you have ever purchased 80s chicago house or early hip hop records by really no name labels. |
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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by paulversuspaul
Oh almost forgot, Pivot that is classic bad vinyl sound. you can hear similar stuff if you have ever purchased 80s chicago house or early hip hop records by really no name labels. |
Not just no name labels. Trax was notorious for their low quality pressings made from recycled vinyl. |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| 180 gram ftw. |
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| paulversuspaul |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
Not just no name labels. Trax was notorious for their low quality pressings made from recycled vinyl. |
Oh yeah, but i meant no name in that no money not widely known at the time, hence trax was a no name label at the time they were making the original records. |
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