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Airwave answers questions on Reddit (pg. 2)
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| Titanium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
The way I see it is a yin-yang(balance) thing, not good or bad in that sense but more like a symbiosis; like mainstream makes people aware of EDM which then could ultimately lead to more people discovering artists.
At least he's willing to work with armin and co. It would be nice to get another Airwave vs. Rising Star melodic uplifter. Standard mastering packages are killing the creativity which is leading to the boring garbage you hear and newer generations are starting to know that.
Can't really blame Armin either, if he wasn't in that position someone else would be so you'd start having to hate a lot of people and that's exhausting and not worth it. I'm sure there was a lot of pressure on Armin to take the helm after Tiesto hit global status and ventured to other stuff. People like Airwave will always generate their own buzz and the music does all the talking without PR hype bull.
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I doubt Airwave will collaborate with the likes of Armin at least the direction that Arrmin has taken. I think watering down your sound is more likely distancing yourself from the underground people. I know these days when people ask me what sort of music do you like I respond by saying ambient and classical music because I am really embarrassed what armin has done to the image and reputation of trance.
I very much doubt Armin's fans and himself will see eye to eye with the sound that Airwave and JOOF are coming up. People are way too nice towards Armin when he should be the one who's to blame because he has a bad influence on future producers and djs because of his crappy productions/remixes and horrible track selection on his show and sets. |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Titanium |
I doubt any collaborations will happen but it would be nice for music sake. Trance and techno have always been at the end of jokes and alienation. Some people just will never get the vibe and you can't explain it to them either. Now that there is a surge of awareness and listening to EDM especially in the US, trendsetting and following are at an all time high and the margin just grows larger between and quality.
I live in the Midwest(Wisconsin) and ten years ago people would never be listening to a 4x4 beat oriented pop tune. The biggest thing people can associate to trance is Sandstorm and DJ Encore/Sammy. Now we finally have a local radio station play dance beat oriented music. Do I like it...no, but I like seeing the exposure of EDM. I used to be embarrassed about saying that I like trance but now it seem to be more accepted without negative social connotations. |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
the shelf life of an EDM track is about 2 weeks. It was pretty much the same in 2000. I would say that is pretty disposable. This applies to most modern music. |
for many, but so many tracks are timeless. Every DJ that isn't a hack has a few throwback tracks that create a frenzy. Way off on this one. |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
for many, but so many tracks are timeless. Every DJ that isn't a hack has a few throwback tracks that create a frenzy. Way off on this one. |
Mr. Clooney made a good point about the 'shelf life' of EDM. We EDM enthusiasts wade through a lot of music but when you get that gem or insta-classic they are always going to be mega bombs. |
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| Titanium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
I doubt any collaborations will happen but it would be nice for music sake. Trance and techno have always been at the end of jokes and alienation. Some people just will never get the vibe and you can't explain it to them either. Now that there is a surge of awareness and listening to EDM especially in the US, trendsetting and following are at an all time high and the margin just grows larger between and quality.
I live in the Midwest(Wisconsin) and ten years ago people would never be listening to a 4x4 beat oriented pop tune. The biggest thing people can associate to trance is Sandstorm and DJ Encore/Sammy. Now we finally have a local radio station play dance beat oriented music. Do I like it...no, but I like seeing the exposure of EDM. I used to be embarrassed about saying that I like trance but now it seem to be more accepted without negative social connotations. |
Personally for me I don't like seeing it becoming too big especially in America because they ruin everything. I don't know why so many people are focusing solely on the US, when they should be concentrating more on countries in Europe and they know more about dance music compared to the likes of Americans. Airwave I know is trying to bring it back in his home country.
I don't know how exposing people to dumb stuff is going to bring in a surge of talented and skilled producers onto the scene? This will most likely force more kids to make more of the same crap and trying to chase quick cash just so they can become a superstar and tour 300 time s a year.Armin doesn't even support Airwave's tracks anymore, the scene needs a DJ Who supports proper underground music and mainstream music not dumb down . |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
Mr. Clooney made a good point about the 'shelf life' of EDM. We EDM enthusiasts wade through a lot of music but when you get that gem or insta-classic they are always going to be mega bombs. |
Since this thread is about Trance, no one gives a . If you look at real djs that don't play music for 12 year olds, there are more older tracks than recent crackers. |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Since this thread is about Trance, no one gives a . If you look at real djs that don't play music for 12 year olds, there are more older tracks than recent crackers. |
Carefully go back and see that I referenced EDM, not trance.
Also I don't think the exposure of EDM will help trance but it will make people more aware of it producing both negative and positive things. Just hearing EDM could lead to someone wanting to know the history of it all and get inspired to produce like their influences. People today get their tastes from others and newsfeeds and like the same to not be alienated and that perpetuates things further too. It's not just one issue or person but lots of interconnected bull. EDM is now a commodity, and we all know what that leads to. |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
read through the questions. nice read.
i hope Laurent stops by as I am curious about his thoughts on the following:
I've heard a lot of people say over the last decade that they feel dance music is disposable. I think that's a sad idea and don't really agree with that. Being a producer how do you feel about that idea? Do you agree that dance music is largely disposable and if so how does this concept effect your approach to making music? |
In short... Practically l4c is mostly right for me. I can count each year on my fingers how many exceptional tracks we had. In 94 I almost needed a calculator. Everything is millimeter by millimeter a copy pasted formula in order to be effective in sales regardless of the presence of magic touches.
Last night I was at a retro house night, music was from 91-96. Unbelievable How rawness of these tracks hit me in the face, pure magic although they sound subpar to today's standards.
We classified music too much and now music is in jail. That's my point of view |
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| cjart |
and he's pretty well known in psy world since a year or so, used to play his tracks from 'The Tree Of Life' like crazy, can wait for the fresh material :) |
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| Lolo |
| it's out artur, and it's awesome, even better than the previous one. |
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| dj christian |
Airwave digging psy? What have the world come to?
Anyting psy-related is bad no matter how you see it. And i can't agree with him that 1996 was a great trance year, yea maybe for the recordlabel Bonzai but not else.
I do still have my Bonzai Progressive slipmats which i bought 15 years ago. |
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| Rodri Santos |
As a dj if i was surrounded by edm heads i think my set won't feature recent music but something between 1995-2005 if i've no pressure to fit into a standard i think you can't go wrong with something from this period.
It's not true that the life timespan of a track is 2 weeks. 2013 records don't last because every week 20 identical tracks get a release.
The really good tracks that have an impact get their formula copied extensively, i can list some:
-Dustin Zahn - Stranger to Stability (Len Faki Podium Mix). This tune has influenced most club trance producers, the pitched build up part, all the noise comes from here.
- Quintino & Silva - Epic. The long tail kick + heavy percussion, several tracks like this. Example: Knife Party - LRAD (Current #1 Beatport) BTW Cosmic Gate used this first...
-Avicii Piano + pluck: 90% of progressive house producers trying to fit in this. Commercial prog house tracks have 3 types: Avicii Style,Alesso Style or Hardwell Style (Dutch Supersaws)
So basically even this core tracks get replaced easily by others.
In 2000 doesn't work this way as if you listen to Bonzai releases for example, they have some link between them but are different. Take a look at Spinnin Releases,Toolroom Records, Revealed recordings... it's the same track always!! I don't mind playing A track, B track or C track as they should be labeled more appropiately like A,A' and A''
Classic releases last forever because the formula of most of them has been copied just a few times not every week like it happens now. |
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