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Where's the trance? (pg. 5)
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| violethalo |
| quote: | Originally posted by ucforange
At least humor the bartender enough to give you ice water instead of charging you for a bottle.
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I just discovered this was a thing haha. I didn't know bartenders were required to serve free water until like..... three weeks ago. I don't think most people know that. |
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| ucforange |
| quote: | Originally posted by violethalo
I just discovered this was a thing haha. I didn't know bartenders were required to serve free water until like..... three weeks ago. I don't think most people know that. |
Yeah it usually requires some sort of self-deprecating humor or gag to get them to do it. Prior to that they're all " these rolling idiots I hate these EDM nights." |
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| SheshMe |
| quote: | Originally posted by ucforange
I'm sure it was, A&B are huge DJs. I'm talking about the smaller, headier names like Rank 1, John Askew, Super 8 & Tab, MIKE, Chicane, etc.
FL doesn't get any of those guys, not anymore at least. Looking back on it, the Andy Moor booking in Tampa in 2011 was huge (and the place wasn't very full at all and I remember how dead the bar was). We don't get that anymore. |
Hey, even at Pure Trance showcase during WMC wasn't packed and it was a very small venue. Plus, no one was at the bar so I can see why Trance acts or Trance audiences don't bring in sufficient money to the club owners or promoters. |
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| SheshMe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pantone199c
Well I'm not going to give my money to them if they only book craptrance like Gareth and like that, why should I just STFU and give my money to a dj who plays the same set in every city. I do speak with my money, when the party is deserving I have no problem spending money. In 3 weeks I'm spending money to travel from Cape Cod to NYC for barely a day to see Askew and then head right back to work the next day. The trance promoters have all but disappeared since WMC.
It's ok for me, because after ucforange opened my eyes to the other genres I don't give a as much. I can wait an entire year for a quality dj to come to Miami if I have to, but I definitely won't be giving any promoters/venues my hard earned money just to support them bringing the same here for the yolo idiots. |
I don't believe Donnie is saying just go to any ty show just to support, but rather do go to some half decent shows and while there spend money at the bar giving the impression that Trance can and do make money. |
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| AuroraEventsLLC |
| quote: | Originally posted by SheshMe
Hey, even at Pure Trance showcase during WMC wasn't packed and it was a very small venue. Plus, no one was at the bar so I can see why Trance acts or Trance audiences don't bring in sufficient money to the club owners or promoters. |
I was there, majority of the reason Pure Trance didn't pack the club was because of Ultra + other parties going on (even though technically it was sold out). For instance, Kearney was playing at Space. Trance is small potatoes in Miami.
Attendance built up during KSky / Solarstone. Room was packed for Giuseppe. Then died off during J00F down to 40 people or so. I was in the back during J00F stompin' and twirling my glowsticks like a madman.
Bar is the BIGGEST problem for Trance events. When a venue wants you to guarantee 10-15k on their bar, it's an instant buzzkill. Not happening.
We have Ferry in July and I'll be making another big announcement soon for Labor Day Weekend.
| quote: | Originally posted by SheshMe
I don't believe Donnie is saying just go to any ty show just to support, but rather do go to some half decent shows and while there spend money at the bar giving the impression that Trance can and do make money. |
I agree. No matter what event I go to, and even if my wife hates me for it, I always try to put some money on the bar. As a promoter I understand that importance.
Whether or not you guys actually want to support my company, make sure you like EDM MIA and Trance Family Tampa pages on facebook for event announcements. I would say like Trance Family MIA's page but the page owner is never around and ignores everyone, so good luck with that. |
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| lollerskates |
| quote: | Originally posted by AuroraEventsLLC
Bar is the BIGGEST problem for Trance events. When a venue wants you to guarantee 10-15k on their bar, it's an instant buzzkill. Not happening.
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I'm not even in the industry and I always guessed this is the real problem with miami bookings.
Venues down here want big bar spenders because they're used to it. |
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| SheshMe |
| quote: | Originally posted by ucforange
From a club bathroom?? Lol. At least humor the bartender enough to give you ice water instead of charging you for a bottle.
But yeah, I see your point. Trance crowds seem to be much different than the other genres. |
Hey, I've been that nasty whoes paid $2 for a cup of ice water at Space then proceeded to refill in the bathroom sink. LOL! |
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| Donnie Gryphon |
| quote: | Originally posted by SheshMe
Hey, I've been that nasty whoes paid $2 for a cup of ice water at Space then proceeded to refill in the bathroom sink. LOL! |
Just so you know, don't ever pay for a glass of ice water. That is free and they must provide that to you for no cost. It is illegal to provide that to you. |
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| SheshMe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Donnie Gryphon
Just so you know, don't ever pay for a glass of ice water. That is free and they must provide that to you for no cost. It is illegal to provide that to you. |
Duly noted Donnie. Will I see you at Gryphon tonight? |
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| Donnie Gryphon |
| quote: | Originally posted by SheshMe
Duly noted Donnie. Will I see you at Gryphon tonight? |
Did not make it. Was planning on it but got stuck finishing up a few new remixes, was just exhausted when finished. |
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| Pantone199c |
| quote: | Originally posted by SheshMe
I don't believe Donnie is saying just go to any ty show just to support, but rather do go to some half decent shows and while there spend money at the bar giving the impression that Trance can and do make money. |
Well at the end of the day its my money and I definitely don't feel like tossing my money to a half decent show. This upcoming Friday I'm traveling 7 hours by bus to get to NYC for John Askew, and then right after the party heading right back. I don't mind spending the moolah but I have to feel its worth it and honestly Miami or anything within driving distance does not give me that feeling. |
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