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Crafting the "perfect" Uplifting trance kick.
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| Mix Junky!! |
| See a lot of videos on YouTube ect on how to make kicks for trance but not many for the uplifting style. Tyas, Askew and O' Callaghan style kicks I mean. What's the ingredients for the "perfect" kick? Seems to be quite a task getting it right. |
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| TranceElevation |
| There is no such thing as the "perfect" kick. The way a kick appears depends mainly on the basslines and the other elements in your track. |
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| Mix Junky!! |
| I'm pretty new to prouducing. What's the main elements you're looking for with your kicks? The basics I mean. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| something that sounds like a bass drum |
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| BeyondDigital |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mix Junky!!
See a lot of videos on YouTube ect on how to make kicks for trance but not many for the uplifting style. Tyas, Askew and O' Callaghan style kicks I mean. What's the ingredients for the "perfect" kick? Seems to be quite a task getting it right. |
Listening to 100s of kick drums until you find one that you think is roughly right and then spending lots of time tweaking it into just the sound you want. EQ it, sidechain it, mess about with the pitch, the length and the velocity (try setting a higher velocity for beats 1 & 3 of a 4/4 bar) and if you still can't find the right sound, consider using two kicks. You can use an electronic kick and a sampled real kick, for example. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
There is no such thing as the "perfect" kick. |
...and if there was, everybody would be using it. How awesome would THAT be? :rolleyes: |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mix Junky!!
See a lot of videos on YouTube ect on how to make kicks for trance but not many for the uplifting style. Tyas, Askew and O' Callaghan style kicks I mean. What's the ingredients for the "perfect" kick? Seems to be quite a task getting it right. |
Easiest thing to do is just sample what you like. Cut away what you don't like, add on what you do. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
bazzism for the main body
Start collecting attacks ,releases and other character adding stuff like real drum hits and the snare buzz / reverb you can hear, and sub bass stuff.
understand the actual envelope of a kick and use that to mix and match.
Much quicker than going thru a bunch of samples and tweaking. Takes a bit of time at first but once you know what you want, and what you have, it is just so much less hassle knowing how to get what you have in your head. |
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| LoveHate |
| its all relative, how do you pick the perfect kick drum, before you know which baseline you are going to use? |
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| TranceElevation |
Make the kick that you want, but if you mask it cause of bad mixing the whole purpose goes to up.
So we return again at what I said in my first post. It depends on the rest of your elements. It depends on mixing. |
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| cryophonik |
Love this piece of advice for creating the "perfect kick":
| quote: | | This presumes of course that you have a good quality kick sample to being with, and haven't just recorded granny swatting a fly with a newspaper. |
Here's his advice on how to make a really fast car:
1) start with a really fast car that isn't an '88 Honda Civic
2) add a tailfin
3) paint it and put some stickers on it
For those of you familiar with Seinfeld, he yada yada'ed over the most important part. |
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