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Smartest thing a producer has ever said on a Computer Music Interview (pg. 2)
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| Looney4Clooney |
the last decade owes pretty much everything to noisia. |
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| Lith |
I don't think this conversation stayed on topic very long. 30mins was a lot to take in, I only watched about 10.
So I quote the original message:
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"When you check any good track they are all very basic.
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The Hooks are significant and basic so that you have a chance to learn it without hearing it twenty times."
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This isn't a producer point of view, this is a song writing point of view.
Production points were made about sticking with basic EQ, volume, etc.
I don't really care if the message comes from some guy tweaking or some brilliant professor.
Songwriting should always come first. I'd rather hear a sub-par production awesome melody than a badass production with no sense of how a song should move. |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Ridiculously catchy. |
Yep, they sound the same as the first 3-4 times I heard these songs. And again, nothing sticks in my head, I'm not humming anything afterwards. Try taking away all the production, reduce it to just the main melody played on a piano and see what's left.
Compare it to something like Katy Perry's "I kissed a girl". That one got stuck in my father's head, much to his annoyance. You don't know my father, but it takes quite a catchy hook for a song to enter his consciousness. |
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| Beatflux |
| The noisia tracks has way too many pattern changes to be effective at the club. Yeah, if you're a hardcore noisia fan im sure you can jam along easily, but for the average drunken clubber you're looking at a trainwreck of a dance. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
The noisia tracks has way too many pattern changes to be effective at the club. Yeah, if you're a hardcore noisia fan im sure you can jam along easily, but for the average drunken clubber you're looking at a trainwreck of a dance. |
sure, but i guess the point i'm making is that there are so many artists out there to learn from, why on earth would you settle for the words of a mediocre producer who disappeared off the planet for a few years nursing a nice crack habit only to appear in 2009 with nothing new not realizing that everyone has pretty much outdone him in every-way.
I honestly don't see what you can learn watching that video. I mean there is nothing there. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
sure, but i guess the point i'm making is that there are so many artists out there to learn from, why on earth would you settle for the words of a mediocre producer who disappeared off the planet for a few years nursing a nice crack habit only to appear in 2009 with nothing new not realizing that everyone has pretty much outdone him in every-way.
I honestly don't see what you can learn watching that video. I mean there is nothing there. |
Back to basics kind of thing. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
the message works when you are capable of things beyond the basics. Otherwise, it just sounds like a really bad excuse to justify crack.
It is unfortunate that magazines spend so much time on artists that are ty but also don't really inspire others in any way. I have never understood how one could be so blaze talking about music. I mean i do get it, the guy really has no ing clue and it is hard to get excited about something you don't know anything about. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
the message works when you are capable of things beyond the basics. Otherwise, it just sounds like a really bad excuse to justify crack.
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lol |
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| DjStephenWiley |
| Lol brad. Love your opinions. Would love to know your thoughts on oakenfold. Both late 90's after being voted #1 two years in a row and now struggling to stay in top 100 and releasing total cheese. You ever work with him ? Wtf happened? I've heard several different things but not sure what to believe. His book biography was such an interesting read. Aspiring djs and producers would do well to read it |
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| Looney4Clooney |
there was a time in dance music were you didn't have to produce, could suck as a dj and just run on pure hype. His success in EDM coincided with that period.
I would say his main downfall is just ego with absolutely nothing to back it up. He was at the right time in the right place. You can only ride that for so long.
I think a better question is why he wasn't forgotten sooner and what sort of industry allows hacks like him to get to the level he was. That is snookie level .
When you have no talent, are a , and are not shy about sporting a coke moustache while you trainwreck, you tend to lose friends, fans and bridge rather quick. But that was a decade ago.
In terms of scoring, well the job has never been pretty. If you want fame , girls and money, scoring and that industry is just the last thing you want to be doing. People do it because they have an obsession with music and film. If you are not obsessed with those 2 , you realize how ing retarded it is. But Okies story is funnier than that. He didn't do his homework and made a fool of himself. Never worked for him. I know that he made an unofficial request for ghost composers and word got around and ya, you could be dj balls for 30 years and nobody in that industry will give a flying . And the concept of ghost writing in film is asinine. You need to sign an NDA that you are working on a film except you aren't working on the film. I mean the logic is ing funny. And people don't give a if you can;t compose. There are people that get alot of help and studios just don't care because the business is run by money, not ego. The people that can't compose and get help credit the help. IF the movie does well, they do well. It is that simple. If you can get the job done even if you can't do anything music related, you got the job. They just don't care about anything else.
i think he probably finally learned his lesson and has become somewhat more humble. I mean it took 20 years but oh well. He finally accepted that he just sucks. And doing that can be extremely therapeutic. I can just see him in the rain screaming, " I ing blow " with that theme that is played in shawshank as he exits the tunnel. |
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| LoveHate |
wonder if the camera crew showed up on a monday morning, after he just got through a weekend filled binge. :haha:
he seems like a friendly dude though, and this is definitely more watchable then some of the other studio tutorial things out there. |
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