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skaborough fats
I'm headed to Europe, starting with London, in mid-October, and I need your help...

My time in London is planned to be two to three weeks, but I plan to travel around for a month after that. I need some EU (and non-EU) TA wisdom. Where should I go? Pubs, clubs, bars, historically significant landmarks, sites of curiosity or the bizarre, anything. I have work in London for probably 1 to 2 weeks, but after that I plan to visit different cities throughout Europe.

My must see list is short so far, but stands at:

Netherlands
Anywhere in Spain
Switzerland
Germany (brewery tours a big goal here)

So, not to start a war of my city is better 'cuz... Where should I go in Europe.

Cheers,
Fats
biznology
Ok, itll be dangerous to ask 'where to go' with so many people from so many places here!

BUT, and ive only been to europe on several occasions, i would suggest Copenhagen if you are willing to make it up that way. sure, there are some excellent places to go JUST for trance, but i think a well rounded visit would be more than that. obviously there may be more interest vested in the southern or central regions, but visiting Copenhagen gives you a gorgeous city, and, well, Christiania - if thats your thing. Plus you can get a glimpse of the beautiful Scandinavian women people love so much! have fun|

OH, and if you go to Copenhagen and its not a Monday, you can tour the Carlsberg brewery, you get 2 big ass beers and if youre nice, maybe more! mmmm...
cycloptor
when i was last in switzerland i stayed in the small city of lucern. it was just amazing, mt.titless (seriously) has to be one of the mopst beautiful places i've ever been to.
jploveparade
Netherlands: Amsterdam! You'll visit it once and probably want to go back :) Red Light District, Museums (van Gogh), Coffeeshops (weed!), Trance parties

Switzerland: Zürich for the clubs (Oxa), Luzern (+Engelberg for Titlis mountain) is indeed very nice, Bern too

Germany: Münich (culture/ Oktoberfest = beer) and Berlin (loveparade town), Trier (old!)


But I warned you: visit Amsterdam once, and be hooked :D
jploveparade
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Originally posted by cycloptor
when i was last in switzerland i stayed in the small city of lucern. it was just amazing, mt.titless (seriously) has to be one of the mopst beautiful places i've ever been to.


Did you go by train to Engelberg? Did you like the revolving gondola at 10000 feet?
evil_bastard
Prague (never been but heard so much about it). The Czechs consume the most alcohol in the world. They live for it, and the beer in Prague is virtually free. It's also got a lot of history as one of the few European metropolises that escaped the majority of the bombing in WW2. Warning: don't try to drink anyone under the table here!

Berlin. Home of probably the best underground techno scene in the world, as well as the biggest rave ever: the Love Parade. Compared to the UK or the US, it is very tolerant as well. Possibly the most fought over city in the history of the world: tens of millions of men died fighting for this. No other city - ever, has been divided down the middle by a huge wall, it's people divided for half a century as the world's two mightiest military systems stood face to face. A battered city with a rich history of tremendous courage in the face of chaos. Well worth visitting. Check out Tresor, one of Europe's most respected techno clubs. Rumuors are this legendary venue might be closing at the end of this year :(

Munich. Home of the biggest festival of any kind in the world ever! (Oktoberfest). 6 million people drinking beer for 2 weeks. Simple as that. It's (apparently) a lot cleaner than Berlin, if you care about that sort of thing (I don't). The beer here is served in Stein's, about two and a half times the size of a pint. Germany has 40% of the world's breweries, most of them are in Bavaria. Warning: don't try to drink anyone under the table here.

Also: Newcastle, if you like beer. Home of Newcastle Brown Ale, we consume twice the British average of alcohol and have a unique language all of our own hehe (here is a geordie - english dictionary, people round here are known as 'geordies', the stereotypical geordie is a rough alcoholic who wears a t-shirt in the freezing cold, but we're not all like that.). Beer here is as cheap as anywhere. If you want I can name clubs that do 20p a pint, 10p a bottle, all-you-can-drink for £10, and so on. These are every week and not happy hour prices. The police tried to ban some of these nights, but failed. The outskirts of the city have a few definite no-go areas, and the city has a pretty rough image, but there is all sorts worth seeing (historically speaking). The city was amazingly rated as the 6th best city in the world for nightlife. Believe me it isn't! The one downside of the city is it's early closing time of clubs (4am) but hopefully that is changing quite soon. Most geordies start their serious drinking around 6pm on a night out anyway. The area also has the highest unemployment in Britain. Warning: don't try to drink anyone under the table here, and don't mention football too overtly (Newcastle and it's nearby city, Sunderland, have a brutal and notorious rivalry which claims lives every year. You do not want to experience the English football hooligan, it is one of our nation's biggest shames!).

Athens: Haven't been but my brother has. He says there isn't really an age limit for drinking here; it is up to the morals of the bar owner. Very liberal and tolerant. And absolutely everywhere sells beer, no matter how unusual the place might seem. I needn't explain the wealth of history this city has either.

Venice: the world's only city with streets of water. Hey it's gotta be interesting (but probably damned expensive!).

Apparently the South of Italy has a couple of ancient roman towns which were once completely covered by erupting volcanoes thousands of years ago. Only in recent centuries was this discovered, and the towns have been buried out, intact. The gaps found in the ground made by human remains were filled in with mould and models show the positions these peoples from ancient civilisations died in. Very fascinating. I'll get back to you if I find the name of these towns.

Unfortunately you've missed Ibiza season, most people include that on their list.

Oh and jploveparade is right, a lot of Brits go to Amsterdam and never come back! I know a couple of people who keep getting the ferry over whenever they get the chance.

There is a coffee shop in England which sells weed, too, if you get a little impatient before going to Holland ;) It's called "The Dutch Experience" in Stockport, Manchester. Last September, the owner was arrested, but his followers (we have a strong pro-cannabis movement in the UK) kept creating hassle for the Stockport police, and it re-opened on 28th Jan this year. I'm not entirely sure what's going on there today. Anyone? Check out www.dutchexperience.org We have recently introduced a half-way approach to weed though, so that technically it is still illegal, but you're unlikely to be arrested unless in posession of large amounts. Quite a few people smoke it in the streets of Brixton now, so we're very gradually moving in the European direction :)
cycloptor
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Originally posted by jploveparade


Did you go by train to Engelberg? Did you like the revolving gondola at 10000 feet?


actually i did do the revolving gondola. it was really really cool. just amazing. :)
Orbax
Scotland, Edinburgh, stay at brodies. If Collin and Gerard are still working there give them a shout out from The Guy Who Shaved His Head and Lived There For 2 Months ;). IF jamie the big fat aussie is around hes cool to party with!

Scotland is INSANE do the 6 day haggis tour to Skye. I love Europe, but Scotland rocks. Go there.
cycloptor
orbax... that should have been a haiku... ;)
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