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Why do my tracks sound muddy? Above and Beyond's don't! Oscilloscope Confrims! (pg. 2)
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| clay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Learn to spell first of all Mr autistic, If i'm not the right person who can say what originality then you tell me who is. Give me about 5 people on this production forum who are original enough to tell which artists are original and who isn't it which is retarded enough as it sounds.
I make my own presets and use others at the same time which is quire fair. I haven't used a tutorial in years. I only posted in the theory section to find out my pads were harmonized to begin with.
Yeah a voyager and an access virus 2 are the most obvious pieces of gear, what a re you lost?
Tell me where are my meanings said by some one else? |
1. spelling who cares.
2. i never said anyone on this forum is very original producers, you least of all. but there are plenty of knowledgeable music-lovers and jds who knows what originality is, just browse the dj booth section for sets with alot of replys.
3. you think using presets is "quire" fair but trying to sound like a decent producer is not? doesnt make sense imo.
4. I dont know what you mean by "what a re you lost?"... please explain.
5. example of you copying someone elses meanings is for example the fact that you suddenly thinks im autistic, just because it was discussed recently in a different thread. youre just such a bandwagon jumper, getting virus, moog, focals, the second latest mac pro (lol) with logic and PT, all in less than a year, probably because you saw someone else have it in the picture thread. it speaks for itself :) |
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| Juan Paulino |
| Good luck on finding these things on your own. You may feel your getting more retarded as time passes with your stupid questions. It feels like you have a long way to go. Oh and get some treatment for your room because you have none. |
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| DJ Whrr |
| Anyone else have any other input? |
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| clay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Good luck on finding these things on your own. |
what things are you referring to really?
i dont need to find anything as far as i know.
you talk in tongues again. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
what things are you referring to really?
i dont need to find anything as far as i know.
you talk in tongues again. |
You need to find how far down your close to having down syndrome. |
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| clay |
| lol whats down syndrome? you mean down's perhaps (since you're so into spelling correctly)? i think everyone with downs already know if they have it/are one (don't know if its something you have or if its something you are, im not a doctor). |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Whrr
Thank you for your input, but unfortunately there hasn't been any actual advice given...
Any input would be greatly appreciated!!!
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It's pretty hard to give you any specific advice when all we have is your vague description. Post a short clip of your track(s) where you think it is muddy. Tell us how your mixed it (EQ, compression, levels, panning, etc.). If you feel that your tracks don't have enough dynamics, the obvious place to start looking is at your compressor and limiter settings - are you squashing the hell out of everything, or maybe just slapping a preset on everything? Also, look at your arrangement - do you have a lot of instruments with overlapping frequencies, particularly in the lower-low/mid frequencies that are causing a buildup of muddy frequencies? Are you high-pass filtering tracks that occupy the upper frequency ranges? Tell us what you're doing (besides looking at an oscilloscope) and help us help you. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
It's pretty hard to give you any specific advice when all we have is your vague description. Post a short clip of your track(s) where you think it is muddy. Tell us how your mixed it (EQ, compression, levels, panning, etc.). If you feel that your tracks don't have enough dynamics, the obvious place to start looking is at your compressor and limiter settings - are you squashing the hell out of everything, or maybe just slapping a preset on everything? Also, look at your arrangement - do you have a lot of instruments with overlapping frequencies, particularly in the lower-low/mid frequencies that are causing a buildup of muddy frequencies? Are you high-pass filtering tracks that occupy the upper frequency ranges? Tell us what you're doing (besides looking at an oscilloscope) and help us help you. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
an oscilloscope will not help you in any way in terms of comparing your track to another. I'm assuming you are using a spectrum analyzer. Get rid of the averaging or lower it to smallest value and watch how everything is moving. A value from a smoothed spectrum can mean absolutely nothing so to assume your inaccurate reading of a track will make yours sound the same is probably not going to work the way you think it should work.
Your track is muddy because you don't have the ears or skills yet. It really is that simple. Mud is not some specific term. You could use those auto eq programs like har bar and get the averaged spectrum of the best sounding track and it will not do a ing thing if it sounds like . And your track probably sounds like .
These tools can help but that is really all they will do.
And symmetrical slope when the kick hit ? The way you talk about tools you don't seem to know the names of and descriptions you don't seem to understand what you are describing just tells me you also don't understand what you are hearing and have a long way to go to be able to know what is mudd, why it is mud, and how to fix it.
so ya, A/B and practice. Thats it. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
You need to find how far down your close to having down syndrome. |
for someone that could literally be diagnosed for high functioning autism from the internet going thru the standard checklist , i mean kettle black tea pot level.
Spelling is not something people with autism suffer. They usually have higher scores in spelling and vocabulary.
And down syndrome is a genetic disorder. Autism is a term used for a certain set of symptoms that nobody can identify the cause.
I will say that you are being a little ******. And by ******, i mean it in a way that one would use it to describe that fat kid at school that gets eliminated early in dodgeball and has to take his ball home and cry and then his mom gives him ice cream and . |
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| kevin shawn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney The way you talk about tools you don't seem to know the names of and descriptions you don't seem to understand what you are describing just tells me you also don't understand what you are hearing and have a long way to go to be able to know what is mudd, why it is mud, and how to fix it.
so ya, A/B and practice. Thats it. |
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| djyouth |
Turn off built-in effects in your plugins. Learn to use returns and sends for reverb and delays.
Learn how to eq. Cut off a lot of low end. Plenty of the sounds you like are bassy, put alot of bassy sounds together and you have a total mess.
Sidechain or automate the bassline to the kick.
Learn how to use stereo separation. Put stuff at 0% width and 100%, hear the difference. Narrow the width of your supporting elements such as drums, bass. Widen the sounds you want to emphasise such as your main lead or chorus vocals.
Read. MusicTech, Computer Music (Special Issues, preferably)
Keep on learning by doing..
Ask for and listen to advice from those who have experience.
Listen to more genres than EDM.
Get high quality samples.
All the melodic small stuff you keep on putting on top of each other — either separate them by time or lower their volume. If you keep trying to emphasise a lot of stuff it will be a mess. You probably have too much stuff going on..
Just some stuff from the top of my head. Good luck |
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