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Etapp Kyle - Klockworks 10 [standout killer techno]
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| Woony |
Me and Adam have already been jerking it furiously to this one ever since it came out and it's also being hammered by every single decent techno DJ under the sun this year. A big no to bland drone techno with pragnant, fragile, melodic and idiosyncratic synthlines all over this release, while still achieving reduced and effective tool techno form. My favorite is 'Aurora' with a heavy bottomless kick and etheral vibes.
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| SYSTEM-J |
"Pragnant"?
These are quite nice. Astra is probably the pick for me. All a bit too subdued to be regarded as "killer" though, more of an afterparty vibe. |
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| Bierheld |
Pleasant sounding techno with light melodic elements. I can't really commend it much. It's only like a hairsbreadth removed from being completely uninspired bare-bone techno with textbook percussion.
But then again I completely OD'd on this stuff many years ago. It's a personal problem. |
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| Adam420 |
All about Prizma for me hehe, but of course I like the others too.
Will definitely go down as one of the best techno 12" this year I think (and I mean pure, dancefloor-oriented techno. |
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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
"Pragnant"?
These are quite nice. Astra is probably the pick for me. All a bit too subdued to be regarded as "killer" though, more of an afterparty vibe. |
Oh damn it. I was convinced that was a word in english. It's german for consice/succinct/incisive. I think it's from the same latin root word as 'pregnant' and these usually work in english :p
With 'killer' I mean it more as in "very well done", not necessarily as in dancefloor killer. A warmup track that doesn't make much fuzz but does it job very well can be killer, too. They obviously aren't made for peaktime dancefloor slaying but I think a smart techno DJ can do quite a bit of impact with these.
| quote: | Originally posted by Bierheld
Pleasant sounding techno with light melodic elements. I can't really commend it much. It's only like a hairsbreadth removed from being completely uninspired bare-bone techno with textbook percussion.
But then again I completely OD'd on this stuff many years ago. It's a personal problem. |
It's not revolutionary or anything but I think this record is pretty 2013. I don't think something quite like this could have came out a few years ago. I feel like it's a result of the whole dark/'Berghain' techno wave with these producers finally going back making more melodic material again but keeping some of influences from that style, similiar to how dubstep changed UK garage. |
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| Bierheld |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
It's not revolutionary or anything but I think this record is pretty 2013. I don't think something quite like this could have came out a few years ago. I feel like it's a result of the whole dark/'Berghain' techno wave with these producers finally going back making more melodic material again but keeping some of influences from that style, similiar to how dubstep changed UK garage. | Not quite, but only quite indeed. Personally I feel every element is familiar,
and if I look back at what was produced back when I was last binging on techno (up to 2009) I find lot's of stuff that feels similar but is much better too my ears. par example:
Raw beats with melody:
Soft melodies:
With all the wealth of melodic techno that has come out over the past few decades I honestly can't see the appeal in this. It feels like a step back.
But again I've had this problem with the entire 'berghain wave' techno, if I were asked to make a prototypical techno track strictly for educational purposes it would sound exactly like this. It's so stripped down it's literally old ideas with modern production. |
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| Woony |
I really don't see how these tracks are similiar at all except that they are also melodic techno in some form. Different texture, production, structure and purpose. Inigo did a nice melodic more modern release this year and it doesn't sound very similiar to this either. I mean sure, we are arguing about differences in a vaguely similiar style in the same single genre here but for what it is these tracks are pretty different.
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| Bierheld |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
I really don't see how these tracks are similiar at all except that they are also melodic techno in some form. Different texture, production, structure and purpose. | Here's were I have a question: What is the purpouse of this Etapp Kyle release and how is it different from other melodic techno? Is the difference not superficial simply because it tries to fit in the modern 'berghain' paradigm?
De rest of the differences are open doors, if they were thát similar I wouldn't have liked them as much after all. My point is that they had a similar purpose but at the time there was a more free-minded and forward thinking techno scene for them to sprout out from. Music like that is still made today but no longer seems to be at the height of popularity because the scene has devolved further into retro-fetishism, the new avant-garde. And I regret that. |
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| Chimney |
Nice EP. Truly a breath of fresh air as opposed to what most producers are making these days. It feels as the genre is starting to have a bit of trouble with keeping its head above water sometimes and tracks like these are a life-boat.
(bought the FLACs.) |
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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bierheld
Here's were I have a question: What is the purpouse of this Etapp Kyle release and how is it different from other melodic techno? Is the difference not superficial simply because it tries to fit in the modern 'berghain' paradigm? |
The tracks you post aren't necessarily made for the floor. There still is more adventerous techno being made but the Etapp Kyle tracks are made to be functional tools and nothing more, so it's not really a fair comparison. The reason why they aren't pointless is because they are above average, stand out tools. The stuff that stays in a DJs crate the whole year as opposed to a month. Functional, highly quality floor music with a unique flavour that still brings a bit of new to the table is very rare and that's why this release is worthy of attention. People like Levon Vincent or DVS1 are similiar, their stuff isn't exactly experimental but it stands out a whole lot from the sea of average tool tracks. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
With 'killer' I mean it more as in "very well done", not necessarily as in dancefloor killer. A warmup track that doesn't make much fuzz but does it job very well can be killer, too. They obviously aren't made for peaktime dancefloor slaying but I think a smart techno DJ can do quite a bit of impact with these. |
I still don't think these tracks justify such a label, or the hype you're lavishing onto them. They're neither dancefloor destroyers nor captivating pieces of home listening. Being a functional warm-up tool that has a certain amount of melody is not really a "killer" attribute. |
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