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Why You Can’t Travel Back in Time and Kill Hitler
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| Lagrangian |
| quote: | "The Savage Time" (Justice League): The supervillain Vandal Savage travels back in time and places Hitler in cryogenic storage not to prevent the horrors of the Holocaust, but to assume control over the Nazi party and continue its regime into the present day. To reset the timeline, the Justice League travels back in time to remove Savage from power and have Hitler reinstated.
Midnighter: In the first arc of the Midnighter solo series, a man named Paulus claims to have replaced Midnighter's secondary heard with a bomb, which he will detonate unless Midnighter goes back in time and kills Hitler. Midnighter does try to kill Hitler as a young German soldier, but he is stopped by time police from the 95th Century.
You're Actually Part of a Predestination Paradox
"The Primal Solution" by Eric Norden: An elderly Holocaust survivor discovers a method of mental time travel and seeks to undo the horrors he witnessed in his youth by possessing the body of the young Hitler. He humiliates the young Austrian, then tries to goad Hitler into suicide, but Hitler regains control of his body before the deed can be accomplished. The young Hitler is so haunted by the encounter with the Jewish man's mind that he resolves that he can only find peace by exterminating the entire Jewish people.
Cradle of Darkness (The Twilight Zone): Katherine Heigl travels to 1889 Austria in order to kill the infant Hitler. She succeeds in killing the baby by jumping into a river with it, but Adolph's mother buys another baby and raises it as her own. And that baby grows into the Adolph Hitler that Heigl's character set out to kill.
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| quote: | 1. Predestination Paradoxes. In models of time travel with a single timeline, a traveler who has already experienced the past has no choice but to repeat his/her actions. It is troubling to me that you address predestination in matters of only the most trifling detail, such as whether John Cusack is destined to get a fork in the eye or the fate of Crispin Glover's arm, all while allowing gross details of history to be changed with impunity. Tinkering with history isn't a matter of "close enough." Once things are changed, however slightly, they're changed for good.
2. Information Paradoxes. In my universe, the Black Eyed Peas hit, "Let's get it started" came out it 2002, but Craig Robinson feels that by dint of chronological advantage, he can take credit for another's work.
Normal information paradoxes are concerned with inventions that have no inventors, like a time traveler who gives a design to a younger version himself. But you take this abuse of time travel a step further, as a gross violation of patent and copyright law. In your alternate, "utopian" future, Black Eyed Peas genius is presumably never recognized.
3. Grandfather Paradoxes. This is perhaps the most famous time travel paradox, since it supposes that the time traveler's actions in the past can prevent his own future from playing out as he originally experienced it, or even his own existence. When Clark Duke interrupts his parents mid-coitus, he temporarily disappears from existence. Mathematical models demonstrate that this is not what would happen. It has been shown conclusively that he would fade from existence a bit at a time, starting with images in photographs.
4. It is also not clear to me what the punk rockers were doing at the ski resort in the first place; they certainly weren't there to see Poison.
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| srussell0018 |
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| Lagrangian |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
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funny, how i don't really read anyone else's posts after participating in a thread. not even before posting...i ...don't ...give ...a ... damn.
karma's a bitch i guess. :p |
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| Lagrangian |
Whatever, if I could travel in time, I don't think the future would appeal to me as much as being able to jump on my Delorean and head backwards in time to the 80s. First, I think the future looks rather grim, at least for those in America. China, Australia, different story...
I don't know it just seems like the 80s were a great decade; full of innocent optimism, naive? absolutely! But the music was so good, from New Wave to Detroit /Chicago Techno to Hairbands and POP! It sure feels like the best of times. |
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| FuzzQi |
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| Spacey Orange |
| too bad; its interesting. |
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| Syntonic |
| It's crazy hearing how many times he should have been killed, I think it's like 8 times he had close encounters with death. It probably made him really think he was destined for something. |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
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Lol I stopped reading when I reached Hitler. |
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| kadomony |
| you're discounting the probability of Many Worlds. wherein, if you were able to time travel, you'd able to travel to the past, however you wouldn't be able to return to the timeline you left, as you'd be changing a detail just by your mere presence at some point in the past. |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lagrangian
Whatever, if I could travel in time |
If srussell0018 could travel in time you had nothing to worry about ;) |
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| Marcus Summers |
| Why on earth would you want to kill Hitler? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus Summers
Why on earth would you want to kill Hitler? |
This. It would've been much easier to have him accepted by the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna. He'd probably be too busy painting to consider any Jewicide.
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance-MB
If srussell0018 could travel in time you had nothing to worry about ;) |
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