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Can we have a thread for REAL progressive house, please? (pg. 4)
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| Floorfiller |
| man this thread delivers! |
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| AlphaStarred |
One of my favorites:
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| Mr Game+Watch |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'd say the biggest thing that went missing from subsequent strains of progressive house is the strong dub influence, which slowly dissipated (especially once the sound became big in America) and is almost non-existent in modern "progressive". The quintessential progressive house track is all about the distinctive groove, which marries dub with harder tribal elements. If you look at practically all British dance music from the early '90s, it's heavily influenced by Jamaican music.
As for what it was "progressing away from", read this article: http://www.djhistory.com/features/trance-mission-1992. This is the only era of progressive house that actually lived up to the name. |
To be honest, I can't really see the Jamaican influence in this stuff as much as I can see it in other strains of 90's British dance music (Drum and Bass and Garage). Dub reggae in particular I always associated with lots of reverb, and although early prog house has some I've always felt that the heavy reverb was a defining feature of the late 90's - early 2000's prog that everyone (including myself) loves. Though I will concede that the reverb has disappeared from the genre in more recent times.
My own definition of prog is probably much different from yours, System... I've always felt that "progressive" takes on the popular influences from the era (mostly dance music but sometimes non-dance) and congeals them into drawn out, hypnotic, sometimes melodic dance music. Mid 90's progressive and acid house/piano house - Late 90's progressive with trance and tribal house - Mid 2000's progressive with electro and minimal - and now I'd even argue that some of the deep tech-house doing the rounds today (Tale of Us, Hot Since 82) is just the latest evolution of progressive.
That Lemon Interrupt song is the , tho. Lots of great music in the thread... something about all this early 90's music appeals to me. |
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by 2techs
although I prefer the amityville dub, this mix still features the sick layers and subtle sounds that Quivver in his prime was accustomed to. Whatever he did at 7:38 is genius. |
A crash transition into a slightly shifted key with one of the synths muted...?
Also, I'm fairly sure if you took dub and sped it way up, you'd get a lot of the stabby/delayed sort of thing this early progressive house used constantly. I can see what Jack means. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
To be honest, I can't really see the Jamaican influence in this stuff as much as I can see it in other strains of 90's British dance music (Drum and Bass and Garage). Dub reggae in particular I always associated with lots of reverb, and although early prog house has some I've always felt that the heavy reverb was a defining feature of the late 90's - early 2000's prog that everyone (including myself) loves. Though I will concede that the reverb has disappeared from the genre in more recent times.
My own definition of prog is probably much different from yours, System... I've always felt that "progressive" takes on the popular influences from the era (mostly dance music but sometimes non-dance) and congeals them into drawn out, hypnotic, sometimes melodic dance music. Mid 90's progressive and acid house/piano house - Late 90's progressive with trance and tribal house - Mid 2000's progressive with electro and minimal - and now I'd even argue that some of the deep tech-house doing the rounds today (Tale of Us, Hot Since 82) is just the latest evolution of progressive.
That Lemon Interrupt song is the , tho. Lots of great music in the thread... something about all this early 90's music appeals to me. |
see if you hear the dub influence in this early progressive track ;)
btw...I agree with you on tech house. i've felt that way since it started booming in 2005...i think that's why i liked it so much. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| ^ dope track, but is it progressive? Not sure... |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
^ dope track, but is it progressive? Not sure... |
i tend to lump it into that sound. sounds to me like it shares a lot of characteristics of progressive house. i guess you could probably make an argument for or against.
i dunno we'll let the experts weigh in... |
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| 2techs |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
A crash transition into a slightly shifted key with one of the synths muted...?
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Yes enydo, that's it... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
To be honest, I can't really see the Jamaican influence in this stuff as much as I can see it in other strains of 90's British dance music (Drum and Bass and Garage). |
Well you're comparing to two genres which originated from black London scenes which had direct Caribbean descendents as the movers and shakers. Progressive house was all about bringing in new sounds and influences to house music which took in far more than dub. Not all of the early progressive house was overtly dubby, but my point is the first wave was distinctly British, and the dub influence was a key part of that Britishness. I really don't think I need to list the amount of samples from dub records that turn up in classic prog records, or the endless recurring references to dub in track titles, or compile a playlist of the dubbed-to- basslines from 91-93. Play me a single track from any other era of progressive that is a tenth as dubby as this:
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