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Trance is so boring to mix (pg. 2)
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| Titanium |
| tech house is so boring to mix |
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| PoisonJam19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Hip-hop mixing can be extremely skillful if you're going down the old skool turntablism route, but the majority of hip-hop DJs playing in meat markets every weekend aren't doing any of that. |
true. turntablism is a completely different form of mixing hip-hop than just regular beatmixing, like (shameless plug) my new mix.
I still think a good flow/energy can be made from mixing hip-hop just with quick transitions though... |
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| meriter |
“He’s already got the slicked hair, sleeve tattoos and dress sense of a DJ. You know with him there’s not going to be any problems in posing for promo shoots and he’ll be able to use goal celebrations when he’s behind the decks so the crowd knows he’s really into it.”
wow |
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| dj christian |
| trance anything post 99 is boring. |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by meriter
“He’s already got the slicked hair, sleeve tattoos and dress sense of a DJ. You know with him there’s not going to be any problems in posing for promo shoots and he’ll be able to use goal celebrations when he’s behind the decks so the crowd knows he’s really into it.”
wow |
As pointed out in the other Beckham thread, wunderground is a parody site - electronic music's version of The Onion. |
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| Paradox Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Trance is generally extremely boring to mix, mainly because every track has exactly the same structure. |
It's also the same incredible rigidness of it's structure, which inflexibly isolates all of it's features to different, key, and utterly predictable points along a track, and makes trying to overlap those structures a garbled musical jumble. As a result, there's little more you can do than rote 16 or 32 bar blends from one track into another. That's why if I'm ever scouring a trance mix for new and interesting material, I just Beatport/Google the individual tracks, as the structure of trance leaves me with very little interest in how those individual tracks sit within the cohesive whole (however competently the flow is managed).
I'm with you on techno being it's polar opposite as far as interesting mixing/mixes go, which is why my attitude toward a techno mix is also the exact opposite. It's often either boring as in a vacuum, or mind blowing in a mix. |
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| Daveyboy626262 |
| It all depends really. Dance music is easier than hiphop because usually you've double the time to get the mix right & also the structure is made for it. If you learn to mix hiphop, you shouldn't have any trouble with edm |
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| tranceholic |
| just like my good old dad listening to trance for the first time, he said "don't know what to think about during trance music" |
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| kosmotika |
| Kinda wondering what half you lot are doing on this site if you think trance is so dull... |
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| djdk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
It's also the same incredible rigidness of it's structure, which inflexibly isolates all of it's features to different, key, and utterly predictable points along a track, and makes trying to overlap those structures a garbled musical jumble. As a result, there's little more you can do than rote 16 or 32 bar blends from one track into another. |
Thats not necessarily the case. Yes its much more difficult to do interesting transitions, but I think its precisely that risk of making a "garbled musical jumble" that makes pulling off something more than a simple 32 bar blend so much more satisfying for both the DJ and the listener.
Plus I would strongly argue that with modern technology (hot cues, loops etc) the rigid structure argument is moot. Its one of the things I personally love about playing with Traktor, the fact that I'm no longer restricted by the structure of a track as to how it can be mixed. OK so with trance you are perhaps more limited with the amount you can jump around and still have the track make sense (you certainly could really do what say Liebing does with trance) but you have far more freedom to make the mix something far more than just a bunch of tracks with blended intros and outros.
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That's why if I'm ever scouring a trance mix for new and interesting material, I just Beatport/Google the individual tracks, as the structure of trance leaves me with very little interest in how those individual tracks sit within the cohesive whole (however competently the flow is managed). |
So you would rather listen to the tracks individually because the mixing might be a little boring? |
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