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2 Technics M5G DJ Turntables, Dust Cover, Slipmats, Needles Included. Ebays Best 2,200$ (pg. 3)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Dark NINJA
It usually takes not more than months to learn to beatmatch flawlessly with vinyl in order to create one unique style of track selection and flow. That all changed with the nexus 2000. Everything became different with more tactile freedom for example have 2 tracks in sync without my hand far longer than i Have them in m5g's so i'm like what do i do now and the feeling right there gives me production ideas and so on.
It feels like the beats don't drift apart as fas they do on vinyl, prob cuz of wow and flutter. |
It takes a few weeks of practice to get basic beatmatching down on Techs, but to do it flawlessly, takes sometimes years. It's nearly an instinctive thing. I learnt a ton from working as the lighting guy (and occasional stand in DJ) at a big Toronto club. I'd already been djing for nearly 7 years by that point and thought I had it nailed. Then watching the guy who was the headlining weekly resident (who wasn't even well known outside of Toronto) was quite an eye-opener.
He was the first guy I saw who could pitch a new record in under 10 seconds and not need to touch it again for the duration of the mix.
Technics do technically drift ever so slightly, but I worked out that this is such a small fluctuation, that it's insignificant over the duration of a 2 or 3 minute mix transition.
I hate to say this but it's more likely down to you not having them locked exactly in the first place. Try it - take two copies of the same vinyl and mix one in to the other at the half way point at exactly the same pitch position. They won't drift enough to go out.
DVS are slightly different in that they do introduce some slight extra drift but what I noticed with this is that it goes both ways; both decks will be drifting faster and slower (wow and flutter) by the same amount over time. Again, the crucial thing is to have the tracks completely locked in from the outset. Being able to do that fast and reliably takes time - possibly several years.
I'm not saying I've got it totally mastered quite yet, but I'm close and when you get your tracks locked in that fast you experience the same thing you have felt with the 2000N - A wholel ot of time on your hands to do other stuff with. you're not fighting/riding the pitch the whole time because you nailed it in a few seconds.
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
I agree. They both drift a bit. That's why I rely on very high end technology to nudge two records on beat... My fingers! lol I'm guilty of tapping the platter on the side on both CDJ's and 1200's. To this day, I use the CDJ's on vinyl mode. |
I have to admit, even though I use the ride pitch technique to set the pitch, I'll still touch the platter or twist the spindle - old (and bad) habits die hard sometimes! :toothless |
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| The Dark NINJA |
With the Nexus everything you mentioned is so much easier. it also has a shorter signal path and no dvs required cuz of USB.
No usb cable and no 2 pairs of RCA required. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Dark NINJA
it also has a shorter signal path and no dvs required cuz of USB.
No usb cable and no 2 pairs of RCA required. |
That's a very valid point - removing 2 pairs of crappy RCA's and a serato or traktor interface will make a big difference. USB cable make no difference. It's digital data so whether the data is sent via usb cable to interface or from USB drive to built in CDJ DAC, the signal path makes no difference at all - it's still a USB connection.
..but then again, you can hack traktor to work with any soundcard so that's not problem ;) |
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| PaULiN0 |
Rann, when I used Traktor with my m5g's I used the shortest connection possible with like you mentioned before neutrik connectors and everything was solid.
When you say any soundcard, do you mean you can timecode vinyl with a lets say a lynx hilo? |
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| PaULiN0 |
| I know for a fact I will miss the techs but I do also know there will better turntables made in the future. Reloop has a model currently competing agains't the SL-1210 M5G |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by PaULiN0
When you say any soundcard, do you mean you can timecode vinyl with a lets say a lynx hilo? |
Yep. Any souncard. Lavry, Lynx, Metric Halo, Cranesong. Whatever you want.
| quote: | Originally posted by PaULiN0
I know for a fact I will miss the techs but I do also know there will better turntables made in the future. Reloop has a model currently competing agains't the SL-1210 M5G
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Better turntables will not be made for dj'ing. Reloop kit is . Vestax lost millions on making a better turntable. So did stanton.
No one got it as right as technics and they were the only ones with enough market share to make it viable. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| The trick is not getting them locked but having a good ear and bring able to ride the pitch faders correcting for adjustments nobody else can hear. You should be able to have them in sync in 3 seconds. 5 seconds to level out and then a few adjustments. |
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| DJ RANN |
Yep, being able to ride the pitch is essential, but honestly, I've seen guys get it so dialed in during the first few seconds that they never touch it again.
I don't see the big deal with having to ride the pitch even if you don't get it locked perfectly first time. I takes all of what, 2 seconds to adjust, and that means you've got at least 3-4 minutes of spare time on your hands between mixes. |
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| PaULiN0 |
| That extra time sure make newbs drool who are basically looking at everything your doing. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by PaULiN0
That extra time sure make newbs drool who are basically looking at everything your doing. |
It's all down to technique ;)
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| PaULiN0 |
| Yes, Jeff Mills is nasty. The only thing I can't do is DJ with a watch, it might look classy but that gets in my way all the time. |
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| DjWoody |
| quote: | Originally posted by PaULiN0
I know for a fact I will miss the techs but I do also know there will better turntables made in the future. Reloop has a model currently competing agains't the SL-1210 M5G |
There's a lot of hype over these. I know a few of die hard DJ's who are jumping ship. |
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