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Significantly higher pitched DJ sets (pg. 2)
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| kosmotika |
"Nightcore" is just annoying cheesy crap...take some corny hands-up vocal tune, speed it up to about 180bpm so that the frequency of the vocals are so high that you instantly get a migraine upon hearing them and boom you've got a song ready to upload to youtube with a poorly drawn anime girl picture and title it "EPIC TECHNO XD"
As for just speeding up a little bit, in the early days of trance there were a lot of tracks that were 160bpm, such as General Base - Rhythm & Drums, Megalomania - Close Your Eyes, etc so I see no problem in doing it. Just make sure you're not playing silly cheesy pop tunes and you'll be fine! |
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| Lira |
I approve of this.
Although I don't pitch up my music, I do speed it up regularly. There's absolutely nothing on my iPod under 150 BPM (which pretty much means I just had to tweak the dubstep tracks a bit :p).
Life is too short for slow music. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
I know you like to joke about this Lira, but you don't really listen entirely to zanily fast music, do you? I'm sure I've seen some downtempo stuff crop up on your Last.fm. When someone professes to only listen to music according to extremely specific parameters (IE: the tempo has to be above a certain count) I can't help but feel they must be emotionally stunted in some way. Like there's only response you desire from this infinitely engaging artform.
Also, on the subject of fast and intense music, have you seen this? |
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| Barachem |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bierheld
Sure, why not. I've done this endlessly with tracks, if you give me a tempo knob while I'm drunk I can seriously amuse myself (and annoy others around me) for hours. You can go the other way and turn everything into reggae as well, tons of autistic fun to be had. |
Indeed, sometimes going slower is also nice.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Depends on the track in question. A lot of techno tracks can be pitched a long way and they will still work, because they are rhythmic and percussive. Tracks with vocals and live instrumentation start to sound ridiculous quite quickly. |
Well, depends on the vocals and instruments.
Often enough vocals do pitch up quite well.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's pretty rare I would pitch a track outside of a DJing context, although occasionally you get tracks which feel far too fast/slow for their purpose. |
It's fine not to pitch tracks, no one is asking you to... :tongue2
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I can't listen to Cosmithex - Aquarius at its correct tempo anymore, I have to pitch it at +5. |
Why pitch it up?
And is that +5%?
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Of course, there are plenty of famous examples of records being deliberately played at completely the wrong speed to radically alter their effect. An obvious example would be LTJ Bukem playing Speedy J - De-Orbit at 45rpm instead of 33rpm to turn an intelligent techno track into drum 'n bass. |
Well, speeding some banging tracks up to around 160 - 180 bpm just makes them really banging and also somewhat calming as well.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Speeding a whole set up sounds pointless unless you're very confident every track will pitch up without sounding ridiculous, but the OP appears to have very niche tastes where that ridiculousness seems appealing. |
Nah, not all tracks speed up nice and dandy, because some of them are e anyhow, but many do speed up really nicely.
There are too many current epic trance tracks sounding too much like Gouryella - Gouryella or Veracocha - Carte Blanche, and while those two are quite fine tracks, those imitation tracks are boring, bland, stale and sound horrible, sped up or not.
But that's the problem with most trance anyhow, it's a sea of semblance e, tracks sounding like others too much.
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
"Nightcore" is just annoying cheesy crap...take some corny hands-up vocal tune, speed it up to about 180bpm so that the frequency of the vocals are so high that you instantly get a migraine upon hearing them and boom you've got a song ready to upload to youtube with a poorly drawn anime girl picture and title it "EPIC TECHNO XD" |
Agreed, Nightcore as in the sped up crap is generally cheesy e.
I wouldn't upload any "Nightcore".
Speeding up tracks to your own choosing is actually rewarding for me.
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
As for just speeding up a little bit, in the early days of trance there were a lot of tracks that were 160bpm, such as General Base - Rhythm & Drums, Megalomania - Close Your Eyes, etc so I see no problem in doing it. Just make sure you're not playing silly cheesy pop tunes and you'll be fine! |
I think I have a good judgment in choosing what tracks to speed up and how much.
And if I want to massively speed up some cheezy trancecracker track and enjoy it, I will.:crazy: :tongue3 |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know you like to joke about this Lira, but you don't really listen entirely to zanily fast music, do you? I'm sure I've seen some downtempo stuff crop up on your Last.fm. |
You're right about that, actually. I'm specially fond of Japanese ambient music, for one thing (and I even wrote about it on Last.FM). But, mind you, what I did say was that I've got only music above a certain tempo on my iPod, and this much is true simply because there's very little music on my iPod, and I use it mostly to work out :p
(and I do prefer fast music over slow plodders overall, that's why I jokingly said "life is too short...")
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
When someone professes to only listen to music according to extremely specific parameters (IE: the tempo has to be above a certain count) I can't help but feel they must be emotionally stunted in some way. Like there's only response you desire from this infinitely engaging artform. |
Actually, what I find incredibly frustrating is that no matter how much I focus on one single genre, there'll always be lots of good music I won't ever listen to simply because it's humanly impossible :(
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Also, on the subject of fast and intense music, have you seen this? |
Actually, no, and this is precisely the kind of drum'n'bass I'm into right now. Thanks for the heads up :) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Barachem
It's fine not to pitch tracks, no one is asking you to... :tongue2 |
But you did ask us if we do or not. That was my reply on the subject.
| quote: | Why pitch it up?
And is that +5%? |
It's only at 128bpm and yet it's got an insane acid line running through it and feels like a peak-time trance track, so I pitched it up to that kind of tempo and it sounded much, much better. Some tracks do simply seem to be made at a very incongruous tempo for what they set out to do, and I will try to pitch those tracks back to congruity. |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's only at 128bpm and yet it's got an insane acid line running through it and feels like a peak-time trance track, so I pitched it up to that kind of tempo and it sounded much, much better. |
Glenn Morrison - Marquee? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| No... read back through the thread. |
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| Vector A |
Fast records slowed down (linked on that "Dutch kids ruined by gabber" page): http://vimeo.com/26148934
Acid-y tune around 4:30 sounds sweet, haha. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Yeah, the Belgians actually invented hardcore at the end of the '80s by playing Hi-NRG records at the slower RPM to create a weirdly heavy and menacing sound, although the slow tempo didn't last for very long. |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No... read back through the thread. |
Ah, gotcha. |
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| DJRYAN™ |
| Hi Gate - Pitchin & Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness are two that immediately come to mind.. There's also one in Moby's set from Tomorrowland 2009 that I don't know the name of but it was one of the better ones.. of course these are just tracks, not sets.. but still.. |
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