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PvD's hayday
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| jayxthekoolest |
| Anyone else think his album In Between is his best work? |
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| Sykonee |
| I haven't heard it, but since it's a post-2000 PvD album, I'm 99.98% certain it's far from his best work. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
This guy's been trolling up the joint for a few weeks now, pay him no heed.
But to make some use of this thread here's PVD at his absolute peak:
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| kosmotika |
| 45 RPM is the only PvD album I fully enjoy. The others are more or less monotonous rehashings of the same thing, and by the time In Between rolled around, he had just gone full commercial. |
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| 2techs |
| Politics of Dancing is utter , yeah I said it. Can't stand how he edited tracks with his signature bassline. His dj compilation game shouldve came a lot earlier than 2001. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
45 RPM is the only PvD album I fully enjoy. The others are more or less monotonous rehashings of the same thing, and by the time In Between rolled around, he had just gone full commercial. |
Nonsense. Seven Ways is about as good as a trance LP gets. |
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| Scoops |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Anyone else think his album In Between is his best work? |
its a good artist album, but i prefer Out There and Back...
i'm actually a fan of POD2...some solid tracks on there... |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nonsense. Seven Ways is about as good as a trance LP gets. |
I recall thinking it was an alright album, but nothing much stood out to me besides Forbidden Fruit, which is probably why I rated the album a 3 on discogs and now I can't even remember what else is on it.
I rated it quite some time ago though...maybe it's time for another listen. I'll do that right now. :)
Funnily enough, a lot of writing & production credits on the album, almost every track actually, is credited to someone named Johnny Klimek. "Beautiful Place" is practically a direct rip off of BT - Embracing The Sunshine (Sasha Mix), which was released one year earlier. Almost makes me wonder just how much work Paul really did on this one... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Johnny Klimek is extensively credited on 45RPM as well, you realise? PVD's time on MFS was his heyday because Mark Reeder exerted a big influence on his output, including having creative input on his albums and providing the studio helpers.
I think the story is that about halfway through the making of Seven Ways PVD and Reeder had a fall-out about the direction he was going, which is why the last few tracks on Seven Ways use a totally different engineer. PVD promptly departed from MFS after the album was completed, took full control of his destiny and began his long, slow descent into cheesy nonsense.
EDIT; Also, calling Beautiful Place a "direct rip-off" of Embracing The Sunshine is absolutely ridiculous. |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
maybe it's time for another listen. I'll do that right now. :)
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Listen to the double CD of 'Seven Ways', it's a bunch of remixes. This one is on there, probably my favorite track of his.
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
Listen to the double CD of 'Seven Ways', it's a bunch of remixes. This one is on there, probably my favorite track of his.
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Yep, that's the one I've got. The UK double CD. I like that remix, it would make for a nice closer to a set and has a ring of his early work.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Johnny Klimek is extensively credited on 45RPM as well, you realise? PVD's time on MFS was his heyday because Mark Reeder exerted a big influence on his output, including having creative input on his albums and providing the studio helpers.
I think the story is that about halfway through the making of Seven Ways PVD and Reeder had a fall-out about the direction he was going, which is why the last few tracks on Seven Ways use a totally different engineer. PVD promptly departed from MFS after the album was completed, took full control of his destiny and began his long, slow descent into cheesy nonsense.
EDIT; Also, calling Beautiful Place a "direct rip-off" of Embracing The Sunshine is absolutely ridiculous. |
Yes, but he didn't seem to have nearly so much control over the stuff on 45 RPM as he did on Seven Ways. He's only got credit for a few songs on 45 RPM, whereas on Seven Ways his name is on nearly every song.
It's certainly not a bad album at all, but again, the songs fail to inspire me to do more than some occasional toe tapping. I'm much more into dancier stuff anyhow, but for a progressive album it is quite decent.
They are extremely similar, except Sasha's remix came out a year before Paul's track did. They are in the same key, use the same synths, same melody progressions, etc.
Check 7:48
and 3:53
Listen to the similarity between the bass notes as well. It's very clear that Paul was er..."influenced" by the former. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Every single track on 45RPM has a co-producer. If it's not Klimek it's fellow MFS trance producer Voov. There isn't a single track on either album that is produced solely by Paul Van Dyk. Again, it's probably the greatest strength of Seven Ways, because PVD has steadily declined ever since he left MFS.
There are definitely similarities between Embracing The Sunshine and Beautiful Place, but also plenty of differences. Given the ubiquity of sampling in dance music, it's pretty daft to call a track a "direct rip-off" for borrowing a piano chord progression and some crackly synths (and pianos and acid-like crackling synth were in dozens and dozens of tracks from this era) and then writing a different track around it. |
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