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Solar Serenades vs Boundaries of Imagintation (pg. 2)
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| Woony |
| What would a 'genuine dance fan in the making' see in this music? It's nothing like modern trance and just so goofy and 90's sounding. If someone who is into Armin right now gets fed up with the crap he's probably going to start listening to Dubstep, Drum & Bass or Uk pop-house like Disclosure, not corny trance from 15 years ago. I know when I got fed up with trance I wanted to get away from it as fast as possible, not listen to a slightly less cheesy version from 15 years ago. And someone who's still into Armin isn't going to appreciate any of the stuff that's not exactly like what he's being fed right now, this stuff works like a frigging cult. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
This stuff was corny, but modern trance is so irreedemably awful that I struggle to believe any genuine music lovers could start out listening to it. If your tastes have to develop before you can listen to Out Of The Blue or Ligaya you're probably a lost cause.
I think most kids starting out today are more likely to move onto something like deep house or the early days of dubstep, given those scenes are both very commercially popular right now yet have links back to more serious scenes. Trance is a complete dead end. |
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| rubez |
thing is, before you know any better - you will be drawn to anything with a beat, if that's to be your thing.
that brash and popular i.e. easily accessibly music is where you're likely to have your first dance experiences.
just as you say OG dance fans thought uplifting trance was incredibly lame, we find trance 2.0 utter drivel... is it really any different?
i'd say yes. but then i would.
even though i say trance 2.0 is gash in the extreme, there are younsters out there loving every minute of it (not unlike us 10 years ago) i can hardly comprehend it, but there you go.
i mean, it's not outwith the realms of possibility, that an above & beyond fan will go back and get into their older stuff, which has far more class... sounds more logical than getting into dubstep. |
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| AlphaStarred |
As much as I like oldschool stuff (93-94' era) I still get nostalgic for some particular 99-00' trance (e.g. Electric Daisy Carnival, Reactivate 17 cd 2). I don't think there's anything corny about most of the tunes on those compilations, which feature some of the better trance of that era. And when I play it for most people, they dig it too.
I think maybe what rubez is saying is that if you point some youngsters now into that direction, they might "develop" their tastes by perhaps beginning to enjoy it more than the modern stuff, and eventually develop their tastes still more, going back to the early 90s. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by 2techs
I didn't make this thread for nothing http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...99#.Uz2K0xJjlok
I grew out of uplifting trance, embraced house and techno, and now I'm back to where it all started for me. I'm not proud of that elitist thread anymore. |
Didn't know you were Mattsanity. :p
I'm somewhat in a bit of a similar boat. I also "grew out" of most stuff, but I will often revisit 99-00' trance, and enjoy it not a little. I think it's also because I bought a lot of those trance compilations back in 00' or so, and I'll always experience that nostalgia.
A few years ago I grew out of pretty much all electronic music and was solely listening to classical (piano) music. In Israel I didn't listen to music at all, except for singing along to songs on Shabbat. Now I'm back home and just listening to whatever tickles my fancy at the moment, mostly electronic music. |
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| Sykonee |
| The only reason new dance music fans might get into epic trance of that era is for the same reason someone might get into '90s euro dance or '80s italo disco. It's cheesy, they know it's cheesy, but there's also some fascination in discovering how many ear-wormy hooks and melodies came from those scenes that are all but forgotten now (except those that are constantly recycled). |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
The only reason new dance music fans might get into epic trance of that era is for the same reason someone might get into '90s euro dance or '80s italo disco. |
I don't see the correlation. I think a better reason would be that modern trance fans might eventually get bored and want to hear how older trance sounded. Just like after I got tired of the "looping" modern techno, I'd listen to older techno, gradually going back to the early 90's.
Many people here developed their tastes not only by branching out to other genres, but also by listening to older productions within the same genre. |
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This is the kind of music you grow out of, not into. |
I don't think the true tranceaddicts grow out of these tracks.
Liberation, Seven Cities, Apperception I can still enjoy as much as I did back then, Gamemaster maybe a little less, but the memories of it just are amazing. Maybe like Gouryella some do sound a bit dated now and indeed aren't the track youngsters grow into, but many still sound good and not corny at all. Also I think you can say the same about other genres.
So for me it's definitely Boundaries of Imagination.
Regarding Armin, as much as the first hour of A.S.O.T. usually sucks I noticed that many still listen his show for the uplifting tracks at the end. I maybe should listen more often again.
Maybe “genuine” dance fans aren't “genuine” if they only like one genre, so if you like uplifting trance you still can be a "genuine" dance fan. After roughly 25 years of listing to edm without interruption I do think I'm a genuine dance fan.
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
I remember Armin saying he was one of the few Trance DJs mixing harmonically,it shows in that mix. Both mixes are heavy on that Dutch. [/URL] |
That was due to Ben Liebrand who was one of the pioneers in key-mixing in the early 90's and the inspiration for many Dutch DJ's. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I don't see the correlation. I think a better reason would be that modern trance fans might eventually get bored and want to hear how older trance sounded. Just like after I got tired of the "looping" modern techno, I'd listen to older techno, gradually going back to the early 90's. |
Yeah, that could work too, though I was generally talking about undeniably cheesy tracks, whereas you're referring to tunes that have some class even long after their popularity. |
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| 2techs |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Didn't know you were Mattsanity. :p
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I'm not what I once was with the trolling and all. it's all about growing up I guess.
speaking of 1999 and trance, long live benno de goeij
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| Subtle |
I prefer Solar Serenades, Boundaries Of Imagination was a bit too much melodic trance.
This was Armin van Buuren at his very best. Loved all of these. |
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