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uad solo 2 (pg. 2)
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
the giant dongle system just seems so antiquated and worthless |
Pretty much. I remember when everyone was like "the Sonnox plugins are so detailed an Intel CPU could never power them"... then the native plugins came out and they used like 2% CPU. That was 6 years ago, so DSP cards are just a huge joke now IMO. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
It seems so bizarre to me these days that the UAD model is somehow still surviving. Don't get me wrong, I'm a true believer in using what works and what you know, but the giant dongle system just seems so antiquated and worthless when as EchoSys said, the technical advantages are null and void now.
UAD should just make all their plugs native. I know people who dropped them years ago, that would re-up in a heatbeat if they went that way. |
Bizarre as it is, they seem to be going from strength to strength. Dont think theres much doubt that the fact their plugins are "unpiratable" is a huge advantage in securing licensing deals - thats why youll never see them go native despite the constant wishing for this to happen! |
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| cryophonik |
| I've never owned any UA plugins/hardware, but their new interfaces are very appealing. The Apollo Quads and Twins seem to be excellent interfaces and the fact that they include and can run the UA plugins is just a bonus IMO. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
I've never owned any UA plugins/hardware, but their new interfaces are very appealing. The Apollo Quads and Twins seem to be excellent interfaces and the fact that they include and can run the UA plugins is just a bonus IMO. |
That is until they start releasing new plugins in 2-3 years that won't even run on your $3k interface.
Oh, just upgrade they'll say. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
Bizarre as it is, they seem to be going from strength to strength. Dont think theres much doubt that the fact their plugins are "unpiratable" is a huge advantage in securing licensing deals - thats why youll never see them go native despite the constant wishing for this to happen! |
Here is the answer why:
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
I've never owned any UA plugins/hardware, but their new interfaces are very appealing. The Apollo Quads and Twins seem to be excellent interfaces and the fact that they include and can run the UA plugins is just a bonus IMO. |
They make great Interfaces. Now tie in the fact that their plugins work on their own hardware, and that they have an advantage with those licensing deals due to the plugins only working on their hardware, and that's why they are doing OK.
But people need to understand what this really is: you could run any of the plugs in a heatbeat on a decent PC. Their hardware is a method of copy protection. I think if you've pony'd up $3k for an interface, their plugs should be tuppence ha'penny each, like many other decent native plugs are.
Otherwise, you're just paying over the odds, because they can and will bend you over.
Remember how Protools used to state unequivocally that you needed the hardware at a min. cost of $10k (for a basic setup) to run the software? Sweet, so we had to pay $10k for an interface setup that probably sounded as good as $2k's worth of hardware. Oh well, the hardware has dark magic inside which is the only powersource on the planet awesome enough to run PTHD.
Then someone started hacking the Mbox version. Oh snap. You can run this on any M-audio interface.
...then someone hacked protools. Oh double ing snap. It works fine on a powerful host with ANY audio interface, but guess what? You interface sounds better and holy , in some cases it performed better than Digidesigns own hardware.
So my interface has Digidesign's proprietary dark magic already installed? That was nice of them to license it to every other manufacturer for free.
Then Digidesign brings out a new, improved version for Native possibilities! Wow, thanks Avid. Shut up and take my money, right now, for this new program which has the dark magic now built in to the code.
Moral of the story: Don't trust people that make software that only runs on their hardware.
, I just realized I own an Imac :p |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Moral of the story: Don't trust people that make software that only runs on their hardware.
, I just realized I own an Imac :p |
:stongue: |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| The real issue is thst they are how do you say not so cutting edge. If they actually used the processing from a recent gtx card and not something 10 years old, sure. But right now, the overhead kills and CPU gain you might get. It's a joke. And the fact that you can't buy empty cards, so you have to pay fog he same plugins because their system is not powerful enough, |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
But right now, the overhead kills and CPU gain you might get. |
Ehhh...nope |
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| Looney4Clooney |
lol
yup
you are sending calculations to decade old chips and they don't even haave a chain tool so that you can do a channel strip in one run. YOu could run more natively. the sony plugins. actually used less cpu than the ones run on the card. its retarded. You want actual emululation, nebula blows it out of the water. it is not even a context. UAD is just fancy GUID sold to people that never had the real stuff but want to feel pro. Everyone else you think is using it is sponsored to sayh, oh ya, nothing makes my mixes fat like the new UAD tape sim. |
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| tehlord |
| The UAD card I had caused 15% CPU use in two of my four cores on my old machine whilst sitting there doing nothing. UAD had no answer to the issue. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
lol
yup
you are sending calculations to decade old chips and they don't even haave a chain tool so that you can do a channel strip in one run. YOu could run more natively. the sony plugins. actually used less cpu than the ones run on the card. its retarded. You want actual emululation, nebula blows it out of the water. it is not even a context. UAD is just fancy GUID sold to people that never had the real stuff but want to feel pro. Everyone else you think is using it is sponsored to sayh, oh ya, nothing makes my mixes fat like the new UAD tape sim. |
nice sidestep :) |
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