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EDM Article states: EDM has become 'predictable'
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| Dj Pluviose |
http://www.discodemons.net/2012/09/...ic-dance-music/
| quote: | I recently asked on Twitter “What has dance music become?”, and one answer I got was from Andrew of Harder Blogger Faster: “One word: predictable.” I couldn’t agree more with this, remembering Skrillex joking about one of his fans commenting “Nice song, but where’s the drop” after the prince of dubstep posted a video of Aphex Twin’s Windowlicker on Facebook.
How could it have come to this, though? For years now, electronic dance music has been growing bigger and bigger, finally making the jump from music made for clubs to receiving attention on mainstream radio – outside of clubs. This process was sort of kickstarted between 2006 and 2008 when some emerging artists managed to build a big hype and make electronic music “socially acceptable” for people who have never been into dance music before: somewhere between alternative rock (which was huge back then) and dance music, indie dance was born. Think of: Justice’s remix for Simian’s We Are Your Friends, the early days of The Hype Machine, blog house, Kitsuné, the Ed Banger generation, Crookers, MGMT’s Kids (Soulwax Remix). In fact though, this process has been going on for much longer, though: electronic music has always been drawing influences from other genres – think Bloody Beetroots collaborating with hardcore punk bands such as Refused. After this big hype back in 2006 – 2008 though, it started actually influencing other genres itself. For years now, electronic dance music has been influencing mainstream pop music – I don’t think I need to give |
interesting stuff. he does bring up a point there. EDM suddenly changed a ton ever since post 2009 |
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| Syntonic |
| I thought it was Rabbit In The Moon - Out Of Body Experience he posted? I remember someone posted the feed here, pretty funny. |
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| Psyshell |
| Ehh I don't agree. Some substyles are more innovative than others but that can apply to any genre. |
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| TranceFixxed |
As I associate EDM = Commercial Dance Cheese, then yes EDM IS predictable, formulaic and unimaginative
Same as the commercial mainstream versions of Pop, Rock and any other genre, as commercial = dumbing down, typically |
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| Sykonee |
| That article's from 2012. I wonder what the writer thinks about "the state of the scene" in the here and now. Well, aside from the fact nothing's changed. |
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| kosmotika |
"EDM" has always been predictable. That's what makes it good dance music imo, you rarely get thrown off; you can tell when something's gonna happen and you anticipate it. But then again, the stuff I'm thinking was "good" predictable not "Well, here we go again with another 4 minute long buildup which will climax at reverberated snare, a few notes played monotonously for 8 bars, another reverberated snare, rinse wash and repeat.":wtf:
Come to think of it, just about every main genre of music is predictable in some way. I've always thought it was silly when big name DJs said "I don't like trance anymore because it's too predictable" because then what about pop and rock music? Isn't that typically verse, bridge, chorus over and over? Food for thought I guess. |
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| Dj Pluviose |
I think what the guy meant to say is that it became WAY too predictable rather than just predictable with that subconscious comfort.
And if I understand things right, he's talking about how the new commercialized EDM has dumbed itself down with that new Electro-House-Anthem-Build-Breakdown-Drop formula that made everything just 'predictable' and boring. I mean, didn't some Trance elites such as Ishkur and darktremor say that this 'anthem build & breakdown drop formula" is what destroyed Trance itself too?
In a way I can see what the guy is saying. If you look at all these new electro House era songs coming from post 2009 you'll witness in the comments sections of these YouTube videos that ALL these people are simply looking for is JUST the drop.
'Hey man that was a good drop!'
'What a weak drop!'
'Wow I was looking for the drop the whole time!'
'That drop was EPICCCCC!!!!'
etc.... :tongue3 |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
"EDM" has always been predictable. That's what makes it good dance music imo, you rarely get thrown off; you can tell when something's gonna happen and you anticipate it. |
I wouldn't call that "predictable" so much as "intuitive". You're right that good dance music places its flourishes at just the moments we expect them, and those that don't become annoying because they keep throwing off your dancing. The secret of an interesting dance record is to retain an intuitive skeleton but to add interesting and unexpected flesh to it - so you can dance instinctively for minutes on end and still not be able to predict where the record is going. |
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| Psyshell |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I wouldn't call that "predictable" so much as "intuitive". You're right that good dance music places its flourishes at just the moments we expect them, and those that don't become annoying because they keep throwing off your dancing. The secret of an interesting dance record is to retain an intuitive skeleton but to add interesting and unexpected flesh to it - so you can dance instinctively for minutes on end and still not be able to predict where the record is going. |
Yeh just because certain parts of the formula are followed doesn't mean that it's really predictable. Music has many elements. You may as well call punk rock predictable for always having a similar sounding bass guitar in it somewhere. 4/4 with similar structures is an essential part of dance music. It doesn't make it less innovative as there's plenty of other areas that can be messed around with besides the structure. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Seems to always be a chorus in a song.
For about 200 years , all symphonies had 4 ,movements, and the form of the first were identical.
Rock will have drums,
This is what happens when people that know nothing of music have an agenda and say stupid .
Music is repetition.vmost people call music that isn't predictable noise. But it is predictable in that it is random. |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Seems to always be a chorus in a song.
For about 200 years , all symphonies had 4 ,movements, and the form of the first were identical.
Rock will have drums,
This is what happens when people that know nothing of music have an agenda and say stupid .
Music is repetition.vmost people call music that isn't predictable noise. But it is predictable in that it is random. |
This is EXACTLY what Tiesto said... "Trance is too predictable."
That was his excuse for making commercial music...because catchy pop music isn't predictable.:haha: |
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